now a while back there was a discussion about "virtual particles" which more or less (when observed) break the law of conservation. from my understanding [feel free to correct me along the way] they "exist" in + and - form and dissapate in nearly unfathomably short periods of time. this literally means they are nonexistant, come into existence, and disappear. if they are observed, then they stay in our universe and dont decay at their normal rate (something like 10^-40 seconds). if they are not observed they dissapate
now my basic question of the thread is to ask why they are allowed to exist in the first place. it is said they "come into existence" due to the uncertainty principle. now i have a very basic understanding of this principle, so i have two main questions
what does unkown momentum and position have to do with virtual particles and why they exist
and why is it this this principle "trumps" laws like conservation of energy and momentum

This post was edited by Kamikizzle on Jul 11 2009 10:38pm

how about you read a book?

id like to know the same, but its all not based off what or how its affected by whats around us, but also by how our brains work to be able to see these virtual things,
one can't understand everything and still be right though, so they will be theorys sadly.

the term observed is not restricted to human senses, or even concious detection

you know the alternative to depending on people? not depending on people

i believe it is, energy was first and formost created by waves within the human brain, or body, first research things in the humans, and break it down to see

how the body conserves its energy, and then take those readings and put them up to the task of what you are talking about..

lol dude what are you talking about

i had a discussion about this without really knowing what it meant or anything, but what i came out of it was this: there are questions that really cannot be answered theoretically and are placed into a category that involves things that are inconceivable by human minds. i still dont really know what these old scientist guys were talking about but maybe thatll help haha

so your saying since we dont know now, well probably never know later?

i dont think anyone knows what youre asking