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Jan 21 2009 02:19am
I heard an interesting theory the other day that time could possibly loop and this is why events may repeat themselves.







...or is "time" just a human rationalization of space? mellow.gif
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Jan 21 2009 04:05am
Time only moves in one direction like a strong current, it can be slowed or even possibly stop when manipulated by strong gravitational forces.

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Jan 21 2009 09:57am
Quote (Speztsnaz @ Wed, Jan 21 2009, 03:05am)
Time only moves in one direction like a strong current, it can be slowed or even possibly stop when manipulated by strong gravitational forces.


this is s a tricky statement. with the theory of relativity, time for someone moving at near the speed of light would appear normal to them, however VERY slow for us.

time depends on the object percieving time.
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Jan 21 2009 11:38am
i think time is measured through different means
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Jan 22 2009 04:26pm
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Jan 22 2009 04:47pm
I believe time is cyclical, that is it constantly changes direction although retaining the same 'velocity' towards the future and past. Therefore, 'time', is actually frequency, and cycles towards the future, and then towards the past. When frequency interacts with half-spin matter, the matter (i.e. subatomic particle) acts like a recitified AC current and pulses, in the manner of how movie frames give the illusion of movement. Thus, because matter is half-spin, it causes forward-linear time, although existing in an environment of cyclical time.

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Quote (unghghgh @ Wed, Jan 21 2009, 03:57pm)
this is s a tricky statement. with the theory of relativity, time for someone moving at near the speed of light would appear normal to them, however VERY slow for us.

time depends on the object percieving time.


Time is relative. I'm sure you've heard about those atomic clocks in the satellites needing to be adjusted occasionally. You can travel into the future relative to everyone else (on earth) by getting on Einsteins rocket ship and flying around at extreme speeds. I don't think there is anyway to go into the past, at least there are no real concrete theories out there yet. I'm not going go as far as saying time is only relative, as science is always proving new ideas.

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Jan 23 2009 01:40am
time is man made
i really dont know what im talking about stupid.gif
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Quote (DeltaFish @ Thu, Jan 22 2009, 11:40pm)
time is man made
i really dont know what im talking about  stupid.gif


I'd have to go that way, and that "time" is a rationalization, for what Humans describe moving matter.







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This post was edited by adrian5118 on Jan 23 2009 02:00am
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Jan 23 2009 02:36pm
We experience time as linear. HOWEVER,

Imagine a 2 dimensional flatlander. He lives in a world governed by mechanics that operate in only 2 dimensions: left and right, and forward and backwards. If you bend his world in the third dimension, he can literally disappear and reappear wherever you please. If Mr. Dot is on a 2 dimensional surface, and you fold the surface over to touch itself, he may "step across" and appear to the other flatlanders to have been instantly transported.* This is the third dimension. Keep this in mind.

If you represent the world in three dimensions and think of the fourth dimension as time, or as different states in which something or someone can exist, then it follows that like the 2 dimensional representation of a universe, it is conceivable that in order to experience** time as cyclical, the observer must be premeditative of the ramifications elucidated under such circumstances. The observer must consolidate the idea of his or her experiential universe into not a series of vectors (I am here at (x, y, z) and I will be there at (x, y ,z) II.) but into single points of potentialities. (x, y, z) might become "A" for example, and (x, y, z)II might become "B," so in that the statement becomes I=A->B. The "I" now represents a dynamic event.

Now, since the world of potential accounts for all potential states, the fourth dimension of super-empirical kineticism would be akin to "bending that sheet" we live on. In other words, the single point that represents us as "here and now" can be connected to another point-potential with the characteristics "here and now II." This creates between our experiential realm of (x, y, z) and another experiential realm, equally as real, as (x, y ,z)II a vector, which from the now "simplified" perspective of the 3D means 4 dimensions. That "I" previously discussed becomes realized.

To MOVE between time-potentialities would, of course, to be fiddling in the "direction above" the time potentialities. This would be the 5th dimension. Existing in this dimension, you would experience yourself at all points and times of your life. The "I" from before becomes connected to another vector, perhaps "I"II, and this would represent the traversal between "here and now"'s.

Add a dimension, and by the same principals, you would experience all potential points and times in your lives. You can keep going with this mindset, and many physicists and philosophers believe it ends at 10 dimensions. Or, at least 10 meaningful ones according to our universal experience. biggrin.gif

This is the perceptive nature of time as is pertains to empirical justification, and as you can see, the perceiver is what accounts for the realized observations.

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*Keep in mind that Mr. Dot cannot conceive of this higher third dimension. To him, the motion and shape of his 2 dimensional universe would be retained empirically to him. His world doesn't have to be "flat" as the name "flatlander" suggests. "Flat" in this instance implies merely the dimensional boundaries at which he perceives his particular universe.

**Experiencing time would in fact be quite alien. And as the word "experience" solicits a sense here and now, you would begin to ambiguate what the words "here and now" actually mean. Ask yourself, do you confine your personal characteristics to where you are right now, whether it be in a coffee shop, antarctica or at home? Didn't think so. But do you condition your personal views on that which has happened to you then? Thought so. This is an example of the perceptive boundaries at which we experience.

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