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Dec 21 2008 07:08am
Heaven is hotter than hell!

It is possible to make an accurate computation of the temperature of Heaven using a physical law called Stephens Law? This follows from data available in the bible. Isiah 30:28 reads:
"Moreover the light of the moon shall be as the light of the sun, and the light of the sun shall be sevenfold, as the light of seven days."

Thus heaven receives from the moon as much radiation as we do from the sun and in addition seven times seven (ie: 49 times) as much as earth does from the sun. This gives 50 times in all !

This radiation falling on heaven heats it to the point where the heat loss by re-radiation just equals the heat received by radiation. So from Stephens 4'th power law we have

Taking T (the absolute temperature of earth) as 300K, we obtain a temperature of 798K, or about 525 Celcius.

It is tempting to compare this unexpectedly warm temperature with that of Hell. Although we cannot be exact about the temperature of hell, we can conclude an upper limit. Revelations 21:8 reads :
" But the fearful and unbelieving ... shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone."

The boiling point of brimstone (sulphur) is 444.6 degrees C, which means that the temperature of such an eternal lake must be less than 444.6 degrees C (otherwise if would evaporate).

Therefore, as 444.6 is much less than 525.0, we are forced to conclude, by Physical and Biblical data, that:
Heaven is hotter than Hell!

- http://local.wasp.uwa.edu.au/~pbourke/fun/heaven/
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Dec 21 2008 07:44am
Quote (Kezza @ Mon, 22 Dec 2008, 00:08)
Thus heaven receives from the moon as much radiation as we do from the sun and in addition seven times seven (ie: 49 times) as much as earth does from the sun. This gives 50 times in all !

This radiation falling on heaven heats it to the point where the heat loss by re-radiation just equals the heat received by radiation. So from Stephens 4'th power law we have

Taking T (the absolute temperature of earth) as 300K, we obtain a temperature of 798K, or about 525 Celcius.
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You assume the atmosphere of heaven is the same as Earth. More radiation could be reflected...

Quote (Kezza @ Mon, 22 Dec 2008, 00:08)

The boiling point of brimstone (sulphur) is 444.6 degrees C, which means that the temperature of such an eternal lake must be less than 444.6 degrees C (otherwise if would evaporate).


Once again, depends on the conditions. If the pressure is different then the boiling point would be different. The information provided is not sufficient to determine a suitable conclusion wink.gif
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Dec 21 2008 07:48am
Haha yea I'd have to give it a 'good thought and good try' but first lets try to prove whether heaven and hell exist.
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Quote (BovineDesi @ Sun, Dec 21 2008, 11:48pm)
Haha yea I'd have to give it a 'good thought and good try' but first lets try to prove whether heaven and hell exist.


u pretty much just said "im too lazy to think about this"

im not going to argue about religion in this topic

Quote (xNick @ Sun, Dec 21 2008, 11:44pm)
Once again, depends on the conditions. If the pressure is different then the boiling point would be different. The information provided is not sufficient to determine a suitable conclusion wink.gif


yes i have thought about the atmosphere bit but hadnt thought of the pressure system yet. i just let the atmosphere part slide because it was such a perfect little story.
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Dec 21 2008 10:00am
Heaven has an atmosphere of love that deflects all heat except enough to make it a balmy 78º F. Everyone knows that..
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Dec 21 2008 01:30pm
What an excellent observation and even better conclusion! It's completely mind boggling that heaven would be "hotter than hell" (ironically, a popular saying rofl.gif).
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Quote (xNick @ Sun, Dec 21 2008, 05:44am)
Once again, depends on the conditions. If the pressure is different then the boiling point would be different. The information provided is not sufficient to determine a suitable conclusion wink.gif


lol i was going to bring up pressure as well. rofl
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Dec 21 2008 01:59pm
Quote (kegman909650 @ Sun, Dec 21 2008, 09:00am)
Heaven has an atmosphere of love that deflects all heat except enough to make it a balmy 78º F. Everyone knows that..


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Quote (Kezza @ Sun, Dec 21 2008, 02:16pm)
yes i have thought about the atmosphere bit but hadnt thought of the pressure system yet. i just let the atmosphere part slide because it was such a perfect little story.


And you call me lazy. what a hypocrite, sorry you have 0 conclusive evidence that heaven is hotter than hell....much less that they even exist. "just let it slide" though, because thats how you go about doing science...
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