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Dec 10 2008 04:27pm
As far as we know, teleportation is not possible. Why? Teleportation is instant and although light speed is extremely fast, it is not instantaneous, so the actual idea of teleportation is not possible. Now, going to a more scientific theory (none of that paranormal stuff) if we could dematerialize something and transmit it as information, and restructure it at another place, that could work.

However, we come into some severe problems with this theory as well. How does one transfer the material that makes up a person? Carbon, Nitrogen, Water, and all of those components that make a person cannot be turned into electronic information and beamed somewhere. Or can it? I'd like to hear some theories on this.

Stemming from that idea, if say we had the raw materials at the other point and we had perfected the reconstruction of a human being (and it worked properly) what about our memories? The idea of a soul or something of that nature thrown out, how do we move memories about? Simply reconnecting all the nerve endings and firing the same neurons would not make memories or cause memories to be kept. Why? Memory is just something that's there. In order for it to be transfered in this sense, it would have to have a physical manifestation. This brings up the question of whether or not information/memory have mass. As far as I know, humans do not think in binary and therefore we could not just turn that into data that would be dumped into our brains, so how would one logically preserve thoughts and memories in the instance of teleportation?


This is more scientific philosophy and theorizing, but I still find it interesting. What do you all think?
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Dec 10 2008 04:29pm
I think the closest possibility we would ever get is if we came to understand wormholes a little better. If they act as we suspect we would be able to travel to various parts of the universe in a non-linear manner. Information, at least phone calls and the internet, still only move as fast as the speed of light. (usually much slower)

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Dec 10 2008 04:32pm
Well teleportation is definately possible -- atleast on the quantum (very very small) level. A particle of light itself can be teleported, instantly -- this is how quantum mechanics works.
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Dec 10 2008 04:35pm
I don't rule it out. I mean, we don't know everything right now. 500 years ago we'd have said that computers and tons of shit we have to day are impossible.
can't rule it out.
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Dec 10 2008 04:38pm
Quote (Kr1m @ Wed, Dec 10 2008, 05:35pm)
I don't rule it out. I mean, we don't know everything right now. 500 years ago we'd have said that computers and tons of shit we have to day are impossible.
can't rule it out.


True, but computers are not mechanical devices, we are composed of organic material and have more to us than wires and hard drives xD.

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Well teleportation is definately possible -- atleast on the quantum (very very small) level. A particle of light itself can be teleported, instantly -- this is how quantum mechanics works.

The speed of light is not instantaneous though. Photons are (I commented on this in another thread) very pesky parts of physics because although they are considered particles, they have no mass, no charge, and do not decay and therefore the likelihood of turning humans into something like that is slim to none.
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Dec 10 2008 04:42pm
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The speed of light is not instantaneous though. Photons are (I commented on this in another thread) very pesky parts of physics because although they are considered particles, they have no mass, no charge, and do not decay and therefore the likelihood of turning humans into something like that is slim to none.


The basis of quantum mechanics isn't based on speeds -- its based on probability. If you know where the particle is going to be, you don't know its speed, and if you know its speed you don't know its position -- heisenberg's principle -- photons actually do have mass depending on your reference frames, and yes you can teleport photons lol XD. It is proven by quantum mechanics.
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Dec 10 2008 04:44pm
Quote (BovineDesi @ Wed, Dec 10 2008, 05:42pm)
The basis of quantum mechanics isn't based on speeds -- its based on probability. If you know where the particle is going to be, you don't know its speed, and if you know its speed you don't know its position -- heisenberg's principle -- photons actually do have mass depending on your reference frames, and yes you can teleport photons lol XD. It is proven by quantum mechanics.


That I did not know. So I guess it is similar to the idea of orbitals and how you don't know exactly where it is, but you know where it could be. It would suck, however, to be teleported and only know where you could end up.

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Dec 10 2008 04:45pm
I believe teleportation would have a lot of problem due to the Heisenberg uncertainty principle... and then with dematerialization you are essentially killing that which you intend to teleport.
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Dec 10 2008 04:47pm
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That I did not know. So I guess it is similar to the idea of orbitals and how you don't know exactly where it is, but you know where it could be. It would suck, however, to be teleported and only know where you could end up.


Yes thats pretty much it, orbitals is a good example -- it could be at any of 'these' places at this given instant...and thats as accurate as you can get -- basically our excuse for not knowing is quantum teleportation.

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Dec 10 2008 04:49pm
Wouldn't you be killed and rebuilt; not the same consciousness? Scary.
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