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Dec 10 2008 01:10pm
The Big Bang is the cosmological model of the universe that is best supported by all lines of scientific evidence and observation. As used by cosmologists, the term Big Bang generally refers to the idea that the universe has expanded from a primordial hot and dense initial condition at some finite time in the past, and continues to expand to this day. - wiki

I know they're running tests to try to recreate a smaller version of the big bang,
if they do, would this disprove several major religions?

If we in fact, recreated the big bang, would this disprove god?

Do you believe the big bang theory actually happened? I kinda want to see which direction this sways.

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Dec 10 2008 01:13pm
My problem with the Big Bang theory is that it does not account for how a contraction of the universe will occur. Our universe is constantly expanding, and there is nothing known yet that will cause it to start back into a collapse cycle.
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Dec 10 2008 01:16pm
Proving the big bang would not necessarily disprove god, but it would help an argument. The LHC is attempting to make what is know as a God Particle though; a particle that defies logic and creates mass from matter. As we know, nuclear explosions and antimatter/matter collisions cause matter to be converted into energy, but to prove that it can go the opposite way is a very monumental thing. They are hoping to recreate the conditions of the universe one trillionth of a second after the big bang. As for proof of the big bang itself, the fact that all matter is moving in the universe supports this, but so does the dark matter theory.

Back on topic of god; I don't believe in him or anything, but many would still want to know what or who caused the big bang. Plus, there had to be something there to go "bang." Very interesting and complicated topics that I don't think we'll ever be able to prove... at least.. not anytime soon.
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Dec 10 2008 01:17pm
This theory is to vaste and to many speculations, its going on somewat of an evolution type theory of different mechonisms expanding and being created. I believe in a type of evolution, but not the big bang theory.
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Quote (Spira @ Wed, 10 Dec 2008, 20:10)
The Big Bang is the cosmological model of the universe that is best supported by all lines of scientific evidence and observation. As used by cosmologists, the term Big Bang generally refers to the idea that the universe has expanded from a primordial hot and dense initial condition at some finite time in the past, and continues to expand to this day. - wiki

I know they're running tests to try to recreate a smaller version of the big bang,
if they do, would this disprove several major religions?

If we in fact, recreated the big bang, would this disprove god?

Do you believe the big bang theory actually happened? I kinda want to see which direction this sways.


'the' big bang cannot be recreated. CERN scientist are trying to create similar circumstances like in the first 'seconds' (parts of seconds wink.gif) of our universe. regarding the theory of relativity its quite even hard to define how long a second was. sorry for the bad english but im missing the specific vocabulary^^. however, time and space were defined with 'the' big bang, it cannot happen a second time in the existing space of this universe (at least i think so tongue.gif)

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Dec 10 2008 01:19pm
Yeah, I think it happened.

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Quote (ChaosDealer73 @ Wed, Dec 10 2008, 12:16pm)
Proving the big bang would not necessarily disprove god, but it would help an argument. The LHC is attempting to make what is know as a God Particle though; a particle that defies logic and creates mass from matter. As we know, nuclear explosions and antimatter/matter collisions cause matter to be converted into energy, but to prove that it can go the opposite way is a very monumental thing. They are hoping to recreate the conditions of the universe one trillionth of a second after the big bang. As for proof of the big bang itself, the fact that all matter is moving in the universe supports this, but so does the dark matter theory.

Back on topic of god; I don't believe in him or anything, but many would still want to know what or who caused the big bang. Plus, there had to be something there to go "bang." Very interesting and complicated topics that I don't think we'll ever be able to prove... at least.. not anytime soon.


Yeah I'd really like to know too.
Can you imagine the dramatic life style changes people would face if they lost their faith?
And the fear of death....


Quote (njaguar @ Wed, Dec 10 2008, 12:13pm)
My problem with the Big Bang theory is that it does not account for how a contraction of the universe will occur. Our universe is constantly expanding, and there is nothing known yet that will cause it to start back into a collapse cycle.


Yeah, I agree with that.

If the big bang theory was real, I don't see how it would just create a cycle of planets.
It's harder to believe that we all started out as single cell organisms too, but evolution is an entirely different topic.


Quote (Lampee @ Wed, Dec 10 2008, 12:18pm)
'the' big bang cannot be recreated. CERN scientist are trying to create similar circumstances like in the first 'seconds' (parts of seconds wink.gif) of our universe. regarding the theory of relativity its quite hard to define how long a second was. sorry for the bad english but im missing the specific vocabulary^^. however, time and space were defined with 'the' big bang, it cannot happen a second time in the existing space of this universe (at least i think so tongue.gif)




If they can get that far, what's to stop a crazed mad scientist from going all the way? laugh.gif

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The Big Bang is the cosmological model of the universe that is best supported by all lines of scientific evidence and observation. As used by cosmologists, the term Big Bang generally refers to the idea that the universe has expanded from a primordial hot and dense initial condition at some finite time in the past, and continues to expand to this day. - wiki

I know they're running tests to try to recreate a smaller version of the big bang,
if they do, would this disprove several major religions?

If we in fact, recreated the big bang, would this disprove god?

Do you believe the big bang theory actually happened? I kinda want to see which direction this sways.


To Deists and a lot of modern Christians, evolution and the Big Bang are God's designs so I don't think it would disprove God at all.
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Quote (jrwhite1987 @ Wed, Dec 10 2008, 12:20pm)
To Deists and a lot of modern Christians, evolution and the Big Bang are God's designs so I don't think it would disprove God at all.


You don't think that if the big bang theory was somehow proved, and in turn proved evolution, that people would start to question the bible,
and in turn question their own religion?
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Dec 10 2008 01:23pm
One thing that always intrigued me was the thought of super black holes. Collapsed stars that become so massive that they become black holes (even light cannot escape their pull of gravity), and eventually these get larger and larger as they suck up more and more matter around them, eventually whole solar systems and galaxies.. Perhaps it is one of these that sparks an explosion that is similar to the "Big Bang", but maybe on an individual scale (unless the black hole becomes large enough to suck in the whole universe, and the point of "explosion" just happens to exactly be the size OF the universe's matter combined...)

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