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Jul 15 2017 03:48am
Quote (ChivasRegal @ 15 Jul 2017 09:42)
why wont you post the proof that perspective causes the horizon, not the assumed curve of the earth?


Flat earth is no longer hype in conspiracy business, maybe you could start a new subject on something different ?
example: "Nostradamus Predicted The Rise Of Donald Trump"
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Jul 15 2017 03:53am
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Flat earth is no longer hype in conspiracy business, maybe you could start a new subject on something different ?
example: "Nostradamus Predicted The Rise Of Donald Trump"


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Jul 15 2017 04:21am
https://www.livescience.com/53500-why-b-o-b-is-wrong-about-flat-earth.html


Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Jul 15 2017 11:48am)
Flat earth is no longer hype in conspiracy business, maybe you could start a new subject on something different ?
example: "Nostradamus Predicted The Rise Of Donald Trump"


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Jul 15 2017 05:52am
Quote (ChivasRegal @ Jul 13 2017 09:41pm)
Can we agree that football fields are perfectly flat and if the Earth is actually a sphere it would curve at 8 in/ mile squared so over 100 yards it wouldn't even be a inch.

So picture your 2d side view drawing of a football field - where someone walks from one end to another - they should only be affected by one inch of curve - right?


At that short distance it likely wouldn't be affected since local topology would be a greater effect.

I'd rather use a basketball court though, easier to guarantee it's flat
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Jul 15 2017 07:38am
Quote (ChivasRegal @ Jul 15 2017 04:17am)
you've only stated your opinion, you've yet to state an actual fact.

Just like your opinion that Football field are actually curved, when in fact they are actually flat.

Regardless. let say i give you the curve - if the stated earth curvature is 8 inches per mile squared - so at 1 mile the curve is just 8 inches and at 100 yards = 8inches/1780yard = .44 inches

your infantile "logic" that perspective on a plane (the sun cant go below the horizon on flat earth) completely fails when you're shown the evidence that optical perspective of the horizon causes things beyond that horizon causes things to be optical fall and be hidden from our eyesight.

Watch and learn what you are never shown. .44 inches of curve cannot explain why 3 feet of this man disappear - your whole logic is exposed as a fraud.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGf6acwi6sU


You can't use the zoom of lens as proof. Research how the curvature and grade of lenses correct contrast, mirage, and so on. This would not be an accurate representation of what would be seen at distance.
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Jul 15 2017 07:54am
Quote (ROM @ Jul 15 2017 08:38am)
You can't use the zoom of lens as proof. Research how the curvature and grade of lenses correct contrast, mirage, and so on. This would not be an accurate representation of what would be seen at distance.




That's why we use math to calculate the difference / error %.

If you start with a lens, that's dimensions are known values, you can use those, with other information, like known real distance being observed, and use some basic math to calculate what % error there will be, if any with said lens.

Most likely it would be negligible even at distances of millions of light years.

Regardless, as I said before, basic maths lets us account for error's like this.

Or are we tossing basic mathematics out the window as a way of proving distance/curvature/ etc?

You could do something like this; Error % for X lens = distance viewed through X lens with N dimensions over X distance. Effecting observed light with an error variable of X% to X%.


Our brains do it all the time, on their own, without us even thinking about it, that's how fundamental this type of math is

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Jul 15 2017 08:39am
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That's why we use math to calculate the difference / error %.

If you start with a lens, that's dimensions are known values, you can use those, with other information, like known real distance being observed, and use some basic math to calculate what % error there will be, if any with said lens.

Most likely it would be negligible even at distances of millions of light years.

Regardless, as I said before, basic maths lets us account for error's like this.

Or are we tossing basic mathematics out the window as a way of proving distance/curvature/ etc?

You could do something like this; Error % for X lens = distance viewed through X lens with N dimensions over X distance. Effecting observed light with an error variable of X% to X%.


Our brains do it all the time, on their own, without us even thinking about it, that's how fundamental this type of math is


Basic math eh? Ask any photographer or person who shoots at long range. They have to account for the heat coming off the ground, humidity, and the list goes on. Then take it to account that after every shot there is degradation. But you know, it's all pretty basic math.
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Jul 15 2017 08:44am
Quote (ROM @ Jul 15 2017 09:39am)
Basic math eh? Ask any photographer or person who shoots at long range. They have to account for the heat coming off the ground, humidity, and the list goes on. Then take it to account that after every shot there is degradation. But you know, it's all pretty basic math.


Yeah, this is basic math, well it's calculus, but that's still fairly basic math.

The point is, we have tools to deal with these kinds of errors, don't you agree?

Earthly scales are the easiest to calculate because we can physically measure the distance, dimensions, etc, and have many fixed variables, which make solving these problems so much easier.

Sorry I keep trying to word my posts so they don't seem insensitive or rude I feel like I just keep failing. lol.

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Jul 15 2017 03:07pm
Quote (ChivasRegal @ Jul 15 2017 12:17am)
you've only stated your opinion, you've yet to state an actual fact.

Just like your opinion that Football field are actually curved, when in fact they are actually flat.

Regardless. let say i give you the curve - if the stated earth curvature is 8 inches per mile squared - so at 1 mile the curve is just 8 inches and at 100 yards = 8inches/1780yard = .44 inches

your infantile "logic" that perspective on a plane (the sun cant go below the horizon on flat earth) completely fails when you're shown the evidence that optical perspective of the horizon causes things beyond that horizon causes things to be optical fall and be hidden from our eyesight.

Watch and learn what you are never shown. .44 inches of curve cannot explain why 3 feet of this man disappear - your whole logic is exposed as a fraud.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGf6acwi6sU


i want whatever you're on.. holy smokes batman.. lmao

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Jul 15 2017 05:54pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jul 15 2017 01:52am)
At that short distance it likely wouldn't be affected since local topology would be a greater effect.

I'd rather use a basketball court though, easier to guarantee it's flat


Local Topology? Are you claiming that a flat football field actually has a 3 foot curve in it ? Wow, you are completely intellectually dishonest.




Quote (Ep0ch @ Jul 15 2017 04:44am)
Yeah, this is basic math, well it's calculus, but that's still fairly basic math.

The point is, we have tools to deal with these kinds of errors, don't you agree? :


Explain how a completely flat football field can account for a 3-4 foot drop - the earth isn't really curving 3-4 feet in 100 yd, even by you silly math it only curves .44 inches.


Quote (Ep0ch @ Jul 15 2017 04:44am)
I feel like I just keep failing. /QUOTE]

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