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Aug 12 2011 11:27am
Quote (russian @ Aug 12 2011 10:25am)
Maybe it's because Young got most of his degrees from "Clayton College of Natural Health, a now defunct unaccredited distance learning school." Mr. Young should have stayed as a mormon missionary, where I'm sure he got more respect and attention from the people he used to give out pamphlets to.

You're not too bright are you? Who gives a shit where he got his degrees from? IT WORKS.

"Let's ignore him and let millions of people die every year because he doesn't have the right degrees, who cares if his science works"

Good logic, maybe you should join the FDA.
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Aug 12 2011 11:32am
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You're not too bright are you? Who gives a shit where he got his degrees from? IT WORKS.

"Let's ignore him and let millions of people die every year because he doesn't have the right degrees, who cares if his science works"

Good logic, maybe you should join the FDA.


"Research supporting alkaline diets, like that promoted by Young, is limited to in vitro and animal studies. There is no scientific evidence at present that alkaline diets are beneficial in humans.[19] According to the National Council Against Health Fraud, a 2005 MEDLINE search indicated that Young had not published any research in recognized scientific journals, and that none of his graduate degrees was from an accredited educational institution.[20]"

Pretty sure it doesn't work. I can go make a geocities website that promotes eating feces to cure baldness, and claim 100% success rate, but that doesn't mean much. If he has never published any research to support his claim that "it works", then he is nothing more than a fraud with his fake degrees printed on a chinese take-out menu.
Sorry to burst your alkaline bubble.
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Aug 12 2011 11:38am
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"Research supporting alkaline diets, like that promoted by Young, is limited to in vitro and animal studies. There is no scientific evidence at present that alkaline diets are beneficial in humans.[19] According to the National Council Against Health Fraud, a 2005 MEDLINE search indicated that Young had not published any research in recognized scientific journals, and that none of his graduate degrees was from an accredited educational institution.[20]"

Pretty sure it doesn't work. I can go make a geocities website that promotes eating feces to cure baldness, and claim 100% success rate, but that doesn't mean much. If he has never published any research to support his claim that "it works", then he is nothing more than a fraud with his fake degrees printed on a chinese take-out menu.
Sorry to burst your alkaline bubble.

Yep, it does work.

"limited to in vitro and animal studies"? Lmao, guess all those people in the testimonial videos, myself, and all the cancer and ex cancer patients I met when I was at his ranch in California were all animals, lol. There is tons of scientific evidence, are you seriously that blind?

Keep believing what they want you to, you're just a puppet, the sooner you learn that the better.

Sorry to open the door for you, I know the truth is bitter sweet.
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Aug 12 2011 11:46am
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Yep, it does work.

"limited to in vitro and animal studies"? Lmao, guess all those people in the testimonial videos, myself, and all the cancer and ex cancer patients I met when I was at his ranch in California were all animals, lol. There is tons of scientific evidence, are you seriously that blind?

Keep believing what they want you to, you're just a puppet, the sooner you learn that the better.

Sorry to open the door for you, I know the truth is bitter sweet.


That's because they are talking about REAL research. Not what Young is doing, but what real doctors are doing in the same field (alkaline diets, that is, in case you missed that part). The fact that Young gave a bunch of hapless fools like yourself some crap to eat and happily collected your money does not impact research, and does not deserve to be mentioned as "studies on humans".
And if there's a ton of evidence, as you claim, perhaps you could cite some third-party unbiased sources. Nothing from "buyMagicPhPills.com" or "RedMeatKillsBabies.com", please.
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Aug 12 2011 11:56am
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That's because they are talking about REAL research. Not what Young is doing, but what real doctors are doing in the same field (alkaline diets, that is, in case you missed that part). The fact that Young gave a bunch of hapless fools like yourself some crap to eat and happily collected your money does not impact research, and does not deserve to be mentioned as "studies on humans".
And if there's a ton of evidence, as you claim, perhaps you could cite some third-party unbiased sources. Nothing from "buyMagicPhPills.com" or "RedMeatKillsBabies.com", please.

Yeah, let's keep doing "real research", we seem to be so successful doing that.

The fact that Dr. Young has an over 90% success rate reversing type 1 and type 2 diabetes should impact research tremendously, and most certainly does deserve to be mentioned for people. He has saved more lives then any pharmaceutical company. It's funny when ever something goes wrong with these doctors specializing with natural therapies the whole country hears about it, but when they do shit right which is most of the time, no one hears a single word.

I've already answered this question in post # 78

It's funny you mention "buymagicphpills.com when everything we do when we get "sick"(lol) is take a magic pill. And red meat does kill not only babies, but humans in general, shit is toxic, should be banned with fast food and dairy trash.
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Aug 12 2011 11:58am
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Discarded as in ignored, because the treatment is a proper diet, not a drug.


You fall victim to the same psychological problems you accuse in others. If you honestly listened to what I said instead of assuming 100% of your worldview is right, I'm sure you could take something from my words. Antibiotics, a type of drug, when used effectively, are efficient and life-saving drugs, are they not? Let me know how the drug free lifestyle works if you contract the black plague or tuberculosis.

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Then you have to prove that the information is actually tampered with, otherwise it's just conspiracy bullshit.


If you look at the studies themselves, they are fallacious and full of logical fallacies, but the average person isn't familiar with the scientific method and won't notice, they'll only look at the bolded abstract and see "this drug doesn't work, etc."

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You fall victim to the same psychological problems you accuse in others. If you honestly listened to what I said instead of assuming 100% of your worldview is right, I'm sure you could take something from my words. Antibiotics, a type of drug, when used effectively, are efficient and life-saving drugs, are they not? Let me know how the drug free lifestyle works if you contract the black plague or tuberculosis.



If you look at the studies themselves, they are fallacious and full of logical fallacies, but the average person isn't familiar with the scientific method and won't notice, they'll only look at the bolded abstract and see "this drug doesn't work."

Antibiotics are highly acidic and destroy your bodies alkaline design, as well as destroy the immune system, it is definitely not life-saving in any way. I've said this so many times, sigh, you cannot be sick and alkaline, so no, not only will I not contract the "black plague or tuberculosis, but I cannot contract them. If the environment is not set for microform overgrowth to build disease, then disease cannot grow and prosper and is thus easily eliminated from the body.
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Aug 12 2011 12:13pm
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Antibiotics are highly acidic and destroy your bodies alkaline design, as well as destroy the immune system, it is definitely not life-saving in any way. I've said this so many times, sigh, you cannot be sick and alkaline, so no, not only will I not contract the "black plague or tuberculosis, but I cannot contract them. If the environment is not set for microform overgrowth to build disease, then disease cannot grow and prosper and is thus easily eliminated from the body.


Your bodies' gut bacteria can regenerate in time after antibiotic use, restoring their immune benefits.

Show me one of these alkaline studies you're speaking of, I've heard of it used as a method of detox, but never as a lifestyle.

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Aug 12 2011 12:24pm
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Your bodies' gut bacteria can regenerate in time after antibiotic use, restoring their immune benefits.

Show me one of these alkaline studies you're speaking of, I've heard of it used as a method of detox, but never as a lifestyle.

But why put that stress on our body if we don't have to? Forcing our body to restore It's good bacteria, when we could just live healthy to begin with.

I keep everything in my head, I don't follow or keep track of all the studies, but here are some links you might find useful: http://www.phmiracleliving.com/t-scientific-articles.aspx and http://www.phmiracleliving.com/t-approach.aspx
100% alkaline is used as a detox, It's not safe to live forever off 100% alkaline, there are so many common misconceptions with an alkaline regimen unfortunately, the over all goal is 70/30 or 80/20. It's a great lifestyle, my eyesight has returned to normal, my skin is soft like a babies, my weight is normal, no more allergies, sickness, etc, the list goes on.
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Aug 12 2011 12:35pm
Quote (DieTryin' @ Aug 12 2011 10:56am)
Yeah, let's keep doing "real research", we seem to be so successful doing that.

The fact that Dr. Young has an over 90% success rate reversing type 1 and type 2 diabetes should impact research tremendously, and most certainly does deserve to be mentioned for people. He has saved more lives then any pharmaceutical company. It's funny when ever something goes wrong with these doctors specializing with natural therapies the whole country hears about it, but when they do shit right which is most of the time, no one hears a single word.

I've already answered this question in post # 78

It's funny you mention "buymagicphpills.com when everything we do when we get "sick"(lol) is take a magic pill. And red meat does kill not only babies, but humans in general, shit is toxic, should be banned with fast food and dairy trash.


Yes, we are. The average life span keeps increasing, and real medicine has been shown many times to be successful at treating all sorts of problems with the body.
The fact that Mr. Young claims to have something should not impact anything at all. If every random person's claim impacted research, we'd never get anywhere, as we'd be too busy looking into shamanism, zodiac signs and the best methods for crafting effective healing rosaries. That's why Young's credentials came up, by the way. If he wants to be taken seriously, he has to prove that he's more than just a nobody before anyone will even consider his ridiculous claims. Having nothing but a bachelor degree isn't very convincing.

Post #78 is worthless, I'm afraid. All but one of the links go to "phMiracles", which is laughable for obvious reasons (that is, proving that Young is correct by showing quotes where he says "I'm correct"). The only other link is to some random person's story that Young cured her herpies, HIV and cancer in one fell swoop by making her eat some Arm&Hammer baking soda, and is also one of Young's websites.

I mentioned "magic" because I find it funny that you get all your info on a site called "miracle", which is basically synonymous. I suppose it shouldn't be surprising, giving Mr. Young's religious inclinations, but it's certainly hilariously bad for his credibility. And yes, believe it or not, we get sick. Did you know animals get sick too? And even plants? But hey, I'm sure it's because every living organism on this planet just eats too many McDoubles with a large Coke.

This post was edited by russian on Aug 12 2011 12:40pm
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