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Evolution never stops short of extinction. Imo our state as a dominant species may as well be transitory, whether or not its us that becomes the next apex

As far as space travel, we are already in space and we will be in space
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Quote (PixileDust @ Oct 30 2014 04:16pm)
We are the pinnacle of the phenomenon known as "life."

Billions of years of evolution has lead to humans which are undoubtedly the alpha species.

Should we not attempt to further science and technology to help proliferate ourselves throughout the universe?

I think it is too risky to stay on one planet; we are too valuable from a scientific perspective.


the ego in this post is mindblowing, worst case scenario you are irrelevant, best case you are a virus

e: and learn some biology ffs, evolution doesn't have a pinnacle

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Quote (PixileDust @ Nov 15 2014 10:00am)

For example, when you are in a climate too cold for survival, you put on a jacket. If you are in a climate too hot for survival, you turn on the a/c.


I just wanted to quote this because I find much irony in it, about how we have become lazy as a species, spend too much time inside completely sheltered from the real environment, the one we likely should be spending much more time in adapting to. Sure, we can use out intellects and technology over physical characteristics to survive but to what point? Need to get out and dirty more often, exposed to the elements and let the body do what it is good at imo, adapting.

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Quote (Psychonautica @ Dec 3 2014 07:23am)
I just wanted to quote this because I find much irony in it, about how we have become lazy as a species, spend too much time inside completely sheltered from the real environment, the one we likely should be spending much more time in adapting to. Sure, we can use out intellects and technology over physical characteristics to survive but to what point? Need to get out and dirty more often, exposed to the elements and let the body do what it is good at imo, adapting.


I'll stick to the clothes and air conditioning, thanks.
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Quote (Psychonautica @ Dec 3 2014 07:23am)
I just wanted to quote this because I find much irony in it, about how we have become lazy as a species, spend too much time inside completely sheltered from the real environment, the one we likely should be spending much more time in adapting to. Sure, we can use out intellects and technology over physical characteristics to survive but to what point? Need to get out and dirty more often, exposed to the elements and let the body do what it is good at imo, adapting.


^again has no idea how evolution works, If you wan humanity to adapt, die from something. Putting on a jacket does not halt evolution, and taking off your jacket
will not make you grow fur. The only way evolution works is if you die due to ineptness and remove your ineptitude from the gene pool, so i mean this in the politest way possible: If you want to evolve, kill yourself.

E: you do realize this planet isn't going to last much longer right? unless you can physically evolve a way to fly to another planet and proliferate the human race, please shut up and stop acting like you know what's best for humanity. (or at least do some research first)

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^again has no idea how evolution works, If you wan humanity to adapt, die from something. Putting on a jacket does not halt evolution, and taking off your jacket
will not make you grow fur. The only way evolution works is if you die due to ineptness and remove your ineptitude from the gene pool, so i mean this in the politest way possible: If you want to evolve, kill yourself.

E: you do realize this planet isn't going to last much longer right? unless you can physically evolve a way to fly to another planet and proliferate the human race, please shut up and stop acting like you know what's best for humanity. (or at least do some research first)


i loved interstellar too
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i loved interstellar too


movie or tv series?
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^again has no idea how evolution works, If you wan humanity to adapt, die from something. Putting on a jacket does not halt evolution, and taking off your jacket
will not make you grow fur. The only way evolution works is if you die due to ineptness and remove your ineptitude from the gene pool, so i mean this in the politest way possible: If you want to evolve, kill yourself.

E: you do realize this planet isn't going to last much longer right? unless you can physically evolve a way to fly to another planet and proliferate the human race, please shut up and stop acting like you know what's best for humanity. (or at least do some research first)


Haha what is with all the personal bs and the condescension? is that suppose to constitute insight?

All I am trying to point out is there is a fine line between over restriction of outside exposure, and exposure to the elements. I have no doubt at all the human body is capable of adapting to rapidly changing climate conditions, pollution, evolving bacteria and viruses, partly due to technology, partly due to exposure and adaptation; we have been doing it for a long time already.

Evolution is a constant and is happening all the time, exactly when else do you think that it happens? After something? We are endlessly looking for better ways to adapt, prosper and create an ideal environment for procreation and offspring, it is a 24/7 gig.

The planet is not going anywhere, where we end up is questionable, a total cataclysm aside we will survive in one way or another.
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Haha what is with all the personal bs and the condescension? is that suppose to constitute insight?

All I am trying to point out is there is a fine line between over restriction of outside exposure, and exposure to the elements. I have no doubt at all the human body is capable of adapting to rapidly changing climate conditions, pollution, evolving bacteria and viruses, partly due to technology, partly due to exposure and adaptation; we have been doing it for a long time already.

Evolution is a constant and is happening all the time, exactly when else do you think that it happens? After something? We are endlessly looking for better ways to adapt, prosper and create an ideal environment for procreation and offspring, it is a 24/7 gig.

The planet is not going anywhere, where we end up is questionable, a total cataclysm aside we will survive in one way or another.


apologies, i get a little defensive around ''jenny mcarthy" type science, honestly wasnt supposed to sound as condescending as you perceived it

completely blurring the lines between personal adaptation and evolution, as i stated before the human body is only resilient in the cases you mention because those that weren't did not get the chance to proliferate their genes, not because our ancestors decided not to wear a jacket

again you think you are evolving as we speak, persons do not evolve, only populations, it is not the positive upward process you are implying it is. Evolution is a gritty process in which progress can only be made by selecting out the inept from any given environment, you are not on your way to growing wings to fly for example, if you matured to reproductive age and produced offspring you are done, your genes continue along, you are suited to your particular environment, no more selection needed.

the planet is absolutely not going to last indefinitely, I am not even sure how to point this out to you without sounding "condescending and bs" ish, so i will simply say the sun will burn out and explode (we won't make it to the boom part) and if humanity is not capable of leaving our solar system indefinitely when that occurs, humanity will perish (and likely earth will perish long before the sun gives out, it's simply the easiest point to illistrate)

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Quote (PixileDust @ Oct 30 2014 09:16pm)
We are the pinnacle of the phenomenon known as "life."

Billions of years of evolution has lead to humans which are undoubtedly the alpha species.

Should we not attempt to further science and technology to help proliferate ourselves throughout the universe?

I think it is too risky to stay on one planet; we are too valuable from a scientific perspective.


We are not the most evolved, that is a terribly misleading statement... we have just evolved differently.
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