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Aug 11 2011 11:23pm
Quote (MutatedBeaveR @ Aug 12 2011 01:18am)
if they were corrupt im pretty sure scientists would either get paid off to keep quiet and the ones that get close and are loud about it "disappear" lol not trying to sound crazy but this shit happens in movies prob real life too

Sorry mate, but you were not successful. While pharmaceutical companies could have a reason to cover up a cure (I'm not saying they would and I think it's very unlikely since for a true cure they could still charge whatever they want and most people will be willing to pay it), there are many private charities that are funding a lot of cancer research as well for the express purpose of finding cures. Not only that, but by law, any research group that obtains money from the National Institute of Health must make publicly available all of their research findings (hence the existence of Pub Med, a database for publications put out by NIH-funded research).

If a cure for cancer is found, it will be publicized.
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Aug 11 2011 11:38pm
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Sorry mate, but you were not successful. While pharmaceutical companies could have a reason to cover up a cure (I'm not saying they would and I think it's very unlikely since for a true cure they could  still charge whatever they want and most people will be willing to pay it), there are many private charities that are funding a lot of cancer research as well for the express purpose of finding cures. Not only that, but by law, any research group that obtains money from the National Institute of  Health must make publicly available all of their research findings (hence the existence of Pub Med, a database for publications put out by NIH-funded research).

If a cure for cancer is found, it will be publicized.


lol ya guess i did sound crazy if i went on id really just be blabbering about nothing(especially since i have like no knowledge on this and u seem to know a lot)but i just find it funny that theres no cure id imagine its a very important thing yet we have shit like agent orange, hbombs, and very impressive discoveries about the universe
and if there was a cure i mean cmon it would definitely put a hurt on the pharmaceutical companies wallet even if they make it a high price the fact that the cancers gone they lose their patients
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Aug 12 2011 12:07am
It is hidden from the public because it is non profitable.
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Aug 12 2011 01:02am
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It is hidden from the public because it is non profitable.

The Livestrong Foundation doesn't care about profit, nor does the NIH. Anything funded by the NIH simply CAN'T be hidden from the public. All NIH-funded studies must be freely accessible online.
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Aug 12 2011 01:08am
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The Livestrong Foundation doesn't care about profit, nor does the NIH. Anything funded by the NIH simply CAN'T be hidden from the public. All NIH-funded studies must be freely accessible online.

It's hidden as in It's discarded as a method of treatment, and anyone who says otherwise is discredited, even if they were once considered a brilliant scientist.

Drugs have killed hundreds of thousands of people every year, yet It's ok because these pharmaceutical companies have a "license", talk about a license to kill. But if anything natural gives off the slightest hint that it might make someone sick It's all of a sudden banned from the country which has happened with many herbs.

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It's hidden as in It's discarded as a method of treatment, and anyone who says otherwise is discredited, even if they were once considered a brilliant scientist.

Drugs have killed hundreds of thousands of people every year, yet It's ok because these pharmaceutical companies have a "license", talk about a license to kill. But if anything natural gives off the slightest hint that it might make someone sick It's all of a sudden banned from the country which has happened with many herbs.


You aren't completely wrong, but you need to separate your suspicions from proven facts.

Having the treatments 'discarded' means that the experiments that were used to test said drug were manipulated to falsely prove that they were ineffective. Companies would do this to keep the lid on drugs they can't extortionately profit from.

Even if 'live-strong' or any of these other foundations found a revolutionary cure, companies would find a way to brush it off if it couldn't be effectively patented and marketed. Having the information 'freely accessable' online doesn't mean the information isn't tampered with.

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You aren't completely wrong, but you need to separate your suspicions from proven facts.

Having the treatments 'discarded' means that the experiments that were used to test said drug were manipulated to falsely prove that they were ineffective. Companies would do this to keep the lid on drugs they can't extortionately profit from.

Even if 'live-strong' or any of these other foundations found a revolutionary cure, companies would find a way to brush it off if it couldn't be effectively patented and marketed. Having the information 'freely accessable' online doesn't mean the information isn't tampered with.

Then you have to prove that the information is actually tampered with, otherwise it's just conspiracy bullshit.
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Aug 12 2011 11:12am
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and if there was a cure i mean cmon it would definitely put a hurt on the pharmaceutical companies wallet even if they make it a high price the fact that the cancers gone they lose their patients


Then why is it that we have any cures at all? For example, why would vaccines be available, when more profit can clearly be gained by letting people get sick and then treating them?
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Aug 12 2011 11:14am
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You aren't completely wrong, but you need to separate your suspicions from proven facts.

Having the treatments 'discarded' means that the experiments that were used to test said drug were manipulated to falsely prove that they were ineffective. Companies would do this to keep the lid on drugs they can't extortionately profit from.

Even if 'live-strong' or any of these other foundations found a revolutionary cure, companies would find a way to brush it off if it couldn't be effectively patented and marketed. Having the information 'freely accessable' online doesn't mean the information isn't tampered with.

Discarded as in ignored, because the treatment is a proper diet, not a drug.


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Then you have to prove that the information is actually tampered with, otherwise it's just conspiracy bullshit.

People, including Dr. Young have brought there findings to the FDA countless times only to be ignored. Dr. Young has a success rate of over 90% reversing type 1 and type 2 diabetes, yet if you go to the FDA's website or Health Canada's website it clearly says "there is no cure for diabetes, anyone trying to tell you this is a scam". And It's only at 90+ % because people fall off the program, it is tough to stay on in the beginning, believe me I know, but if they stayed on it, his success rate would be 100%.

I really don't know how much more obvious it can be.
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Aug 12 2011 11:25am
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People, including Dr. Young have brought there findings to the FDA countless times only to be ignored..


Maybe it's because Young got most of his degrees from "Clayton College of Natural Health, a now defunct unaccredited distance learning school." Mr. Young should have stayed as a mormon missionary, where I'm sure he got more respect and attention from the people he used to give out pamphlets to.
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