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Sep 28 2009 06:09pm
Quote (DarkestLight @ Mon, Sep 28 2009, 05:04pm)
You mean the fact that your pretending that the big bang has any actual proof?
It wasnt flawless but people had a pretty god damn good idea of how flat the earth was till we figured out that it wasnt flat


please tell me youre joking. the big bang has more evidence behind it than almost any theory youve decided was incorrect in this post.
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Sep 28 2009 06:11pm
Quote (Kamikizzle @ Mon, Sep 28 2009, 05:09pm)
please tell me youre joking. the big bang has more evidence behind it than almost any theory youve decided was incorrect in this post.
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Oh im sorry u mean ur evidence based on conjecture

Cant have ur cake and eat it too...
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Sep 28 2009 06:12pm
Quote (DarkestLight @ Mon, Sep 28 2009, 05:11pm)
Oh im sorry u mean ur evidence based on conjecture

Cant have ur cake and eat it too...


its not my evidence, but sure. careful there bro, only 70 posts in and youre showing your troll side
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Sep 28 2009 06:15pm
Quote (Kamikizzle @ Mon, Sep 28 2009, 05:12pm)
its not my evidence, but sure. careful there bro, only 70 posts in and youre showing your troll side


said the guy following me round and posting shit not even relative to the topic
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Sep 29 2009 05:40pm
Quote (DarkestLight @ Mon, Sep 28 2009, 06:04pm)
You mean the fact that your pretending that the big bang has any actual proof?
It wasnt flawless but people had a pretty god damn good idea of how flat the earth was till we figured out that it wasnt flat


aaah there are like 15412412 points that i want to jump in on in this topic.. but i will choose this 1 first and go from there.....
just FYI one of the things that Pythagoras's successors and students (including Plato) gave credit to Pythagoras about was his
thinking that the Earth was not flat. There are no direct writings from Pythagoras to verify that he was the first to scientificly challenge
the idea that the Earth was flat; but Plato does mention in some of his writings that Pythagoras would often talk about how if Earth was
flat, then where did all of the running water come from and where did it go. And Eratosthenes did mention that his calculation of the
circumference of the Earth (that assumes the Earth is round) was loosely based on the work of Plato and (indirectly) Pythagoras.

My point in all of this is Pythagoras, Plato and Eratosthenes are largely considered the founders and first members of an organized and
documented system of expirimentation and thought, aka Science. So your arguement is kind of null, in that prooving the Earth was round
was actually science's first great accomplishment.
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Sep 29 2009 05:56pm
And again just to piggy back on what Kamikizzle is saying..

Yea our theories and understandings of the universe might not be perfect. but they are the best explaination we have available and they have been tested time and time again against other theories and possiblilities and the big bang and our other understandings (general reletivity, quantum mechanics) have all stood up to the test of questioning and experimentation. That is what science is, you think about something, draw a conclustion based on your knowledge and test it. If you dont get the outcome you want you rinse and repeat.. Just because there are holes in the big bang doesn't mean its incorrect. The scientific system is alot like Sherlock Holmes, it is based on deduction, calculation and experimentation. Just because every loop hole is not closed does not mean the theory is off, like is the case for Dark Matter. It's existence closes holes in the big bang, yes, but it also is backed up by being a solution to other questions, like why the mass calculation of our solar system and galaxy is WAY TO LIGHT based on visible matter. Usually if the solution you come up with solves 3 or 4 unrelated issues (like Dark Matter does) it is probably correct.

This was the same case for Anti-matter years ago, people said that IF antimatter existed the universe would rip apart and implode.. then we built nukes and found out that it DOES exist and not only that, it occurs NATURALLY!!

You also need to be aware that the idea of Dark Matter is, in scientific terms, in it's infancy. Setting out to prove the existence of Dark Matter really didnt start to take place until the late 60's and early 70's by that one chick, i think her name is Rooben or something like that.. Before that, like in 1930 or something, someone mentioned the idea of Dark Matter to account for the missing mass of clustered galaxies. But their explaination was ignored by the scientific community because it was albeit outlandish, but mainly untestable and unproveable at the time. Just because Scientists cant prove the existence of Dark Matter right now, doesnt mean that in about 10 years it will be common knowledge, like the existence of Anti-matter is now.
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Oct 2 2009 04:17am
Quote (jimmy123 @ Fri, Apr 17 2009, 01:19am)
time is actually waves,

much like light waves, or sound waves

if you go faster then the waves move, then you will go backward in time, or forward, depending on the situation.

dont belive me?

look it up.


That was figured out ages ago.
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Quote (SalvationDG @ Fri, Apr 17 2009, 05:20am)
Thats not time travel.

Describe how we are going convert ourselves to go on these waves, than convert back?

Not going to happen for thousands of thousands of thousands of years. It's too complex for our brains to even comprehend.


Maybe for your brain.
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Oct 10 2009 03:19pm
Energy is neither created nor destroyed.

Going back in time, would introduce more energy (in the form of the human body) to that particular time - breaking the first law of energy. Thus it is impossible.
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Dec 31 2009 11:11pm
if time travel ever does exist... then we are living the results of that. think about it: if you create a means to go through time, then you have done so at some point in time (or destroyed yourself in the process) therefore anything you DO (in the future with your device) that has an effect on the PAST (our current point in time this instant) has already been affected by what we do in the future...

its not like you are going to wake up tomorrow and say "hey, yesterday i was here and today I notice that everything is different" you wont notice jack shit because its already been done.
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