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Quote (MSX98 @ Jun 23 2017 12:39am)


This. That was painful to read.
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Quote (Santara @ Jun 23 2017 09:09pm)
This. That was painful to read.


it can be painful hearing the truth sometimes
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Quote (ChivasRegal @ Jun 22 2017 10:45pm)
I understand how you're misunderstanding, you're probably only familiar with one point perspective drawings where everything converges into the vanishing point, however you need to understand why the horizon is even a thing:
Not only is the horizon the line where the ground plane converges with the sky plane, this convergence is not the same relative distance as the sky plane. The horizon is where the land raises to your eye level (3 -30 miles away), the sky works in inverse - the view of the sky and the sun becomes level with your eyesight is actually 3000+ miles away and the difference in these two points is what we see, they are not the same - or relative to a single point perspective of standard drawings.


This is word salad. You need to explain yourself better, because what you said means nothing, but I'll make an attempt to decode.

You're saying that where the sky meets our horizon is further away than where the ground meets the horizon.

This is nonsense, because the horizon is NEVER "met". There is always some distance, however small, from the horizon, and it could be measured with a sufficiently strong telescope or binoculars.

You have a fundamental misunderstanding of perspective that you refuse to correct.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Jun 23 2017 07:18am
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This is word salad. You need to explain yourself better, because what you said means nothing, but I'll make an attempt to decode.

You're saying that where the sky meets our horizon is further away than where the ground meets the horizon.

This is nonsense, because the horizon is NEVER "met". There is always some distance, however small, from the horizon, and it could be measured with a sufficiently strong telescope or binoculars.

You have a fundamental misunderstanding of perspective that you refuse to correct.


you are wasting your time.
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Quote (Ep0ch @ Jun 23 2017 07:46am)
you are wasting your time.
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I know, but its fun.
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Jun 23 2017 04:04pm
Quote (ChivasRegal @ Jun 23 2017 07:42am)
it can be painful hearing the truth sometimes


You have yet to speak the truth.
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Jun 23 2017 05:59pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jun 23 2017 03:12am)
This is word salad. You need to explain yourself better, because what you said means nothing


no, you just fail in understanding.

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You're saying that where the sky meets our horizon is further away than where the ground meets the horizon.


Exactly, You get it.
Quick, you better lie to yourself fast to keep up your delusions.

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This is nonsense, because the horizon is NEVER "met". There is always some distance, however small, from the horizon, and it could be measured with a sufficiently strong telescope or binoculars.


A = The horizon is a result of the ground optically raising (not curving up) to your eye level and is closer.
B = The sun in the sky plane is optically lowering to your eye level. (not curving around)

Because A is closer than B , more B is hidden by A

Quote (Thor123422 @ Jun 23 2017 03:12am)
You have a fundamental misunderstanding of perspective that you refuse to correct.


No, your understanding of perspective is that you are seeing the truth, and thinking you are seeing the truth is a powerful drug to keep you blind.
"It's easier to fool someone than to get them to admit they were fooled." - Mark Twain
It's your ego that can't admit it was fooled, staying blind if you wish to waste your life.
Didn't you say it was easier to fool smart people because of their ego..........exactly.
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Quote (ChivasRegal @ Jun 23 2017 06:59pm)
no, you just fail in understanding.


Or, you're terrible at communicating. Which is true. You vomited a word salad all over the keyboard and then blame people for not understanding you. You don't understand shit about physics, that's for sure.

Here's a simple solution for you. You keep claiming that the sun goes below the horizon... well how about you take a really strong telescope to the shores of Lake Michigan and tell us if you can zoom in on the bases of the skyscrapers in Chicago. The horizon rises up, isn't that what you say?
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