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Sep 20 2012 05:18am
Quote (Eti_fr @ Sep 20 2012 05:16am)
Exactly, I vaporized weed yesterday and it is really healthy.
About a year ago, I drinked too much alcohol, and felt really bad when I woke up... Now I grown up, and do not drink excessivly anymore.
I know some professionals are prescribing weed to cure some diseases, or help people that have cancer and take strong medication that is killing them as much as the cancer itself... my dad died this way, I know what I am talking about (my father didn't took weed, but he suffered much and weed could have helped him).


i wish you potheads would go look up the definition of "health" before applying it to marijuana. psychoactive drug use is detrimental to mental health so stop pretending your lungs are the only parts of your body that needs to be healthy.

you know what the end game of cancer is? death. so why on earth would you bad mouth doctors for giving cancer patients a CHANCE to live even if that chance is painful to get to? having a chance at living is better than no chance for most patients and they CHOOSE to go through hell to have a shot at life on the other end. cancer treatments work and you need to stop pretending they don't and talking down to doctors and patients who want nothing more than life to go on for themselves and others.

could of helped him what? manage the pain until he died? lots of stuff can do that but he still would of died. it wouldn't of cured his cancer so what makes marijuana so special when there are plenty of other drugs out there that could of done the same thing?

marijuana hasn't cured any disease so get that idea out of your head. marijuana in the medical field has primarily been used to manage pain, stimulate appetite and the obvious glaucoma treatment.
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Sep 20 2012 07:12am
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i wish you potheads would go look up the definition of "health" before applying it to marijuana. psychoactive drug use is detrimental to mental health so stop pretending your lungs are the only parts of your body that needs to be healthy.

you know what the end game of cancer is? death. so why on earth would you bad mouth doctors for giving cancer patients a CHANCE to live even if that chance is painful to get to? having a chance at living is better than no chance for most patients and they CHOOSE to go through hell to have a shot at life on the other end. cancer treatments work and you need to stop pretending they don't and talking down to doctors and patients who want nothing more than life to go on for themselves and others.

could of helped him what? manage the pain until he died? lots of stuff can do that but he still would of died. it wouldn't of cured his cancer so what makes marijuana so special when there are plenty of other drugs out there that could of done the same thing?

marijuana hasn't cured any disease so get that idea out of your head. marijuana in the medical field has primarily been used to manage pain, stimulate appetite and the obvious glaucoma treatment.


Well, sorry but my english is bad, seems you missunderstood me... I said weed can help support the treatments (that treatments did not work for my father at least), I did not said it can cure cancer.
That said, I believe it can help cure small disease like "common cold" :)
And yeah, there are other drugs that can help, heroin is the best... too bad my father didn't had the chance to take some heroin to suffer less.
As you said, marijuana can stimulate appetite, and that is very important, my father had no appetite the last months.

As I said I experienced myself weed vaporizing, and I experienced myself the effect it had on my body : maybe not healthy, seems you don't like this term, but it had not had bad effect on my breathe like tobbaco that is legal.
People often compare marijuana and alcohol... I experienced both, and alcohol is WAY MORE DANGEROUS... but once again it is legal so no problem to die from it ?
Maybe weed is not healthy (but please provide me with evidence that it can have bad effect on the body, not talking about the brain), but tobbaco and alcohol are much more dangerous.
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Sep 20 2012 09:43am
Marijuana can promote health; it can also cause sickness. In the traditional chinese medicine paradigm the body is composed of five elements: wood, fire, earth, metal, and water. When one element becomes out of balance your body will be out of balance. Marijuana is classified as a 'wood' element.

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Cycles

The Interactions of Wu Xing: The creation cycle and the overcoming cycle
The doctrine of five phases describes two cycles, a generating or creation cycle, also known as "mother-son", and an overcoming or destruction cycle, also known as "grandfather-nephew", of interactions between the phases.

Generating
The five elements are usually used to describe the state in nature:
Wood/Spring: a period of growth, which generates abundant wood and vitality
Fire/Summer: a period of swellness, which overbrews with fire and energy
Metal/Autumn: a period of fruition, which produces formation and bears fruit
Water/Winter: a period of retreat, where stillness pervades
Earth: the in-between transitional seasonal periods

The common memory jogs, which help to remind in what order the phases are:
Wood feeds Fire
Fire creates Earth (ash)
Earth bears Metal
Metal carries Water (as in a bucket or tap, or water condenses on metal)
Water nourishes Wood

Overcoming
Wood parts Earth (such as roots; or, Trees can prevent soil erosion)
Earth dams (or muddies or absorbs) Water
Water extinguishes Fire
Fire melts Metal
Metal chops Wood

^source: Wu Xing Wiki article

If you have a shortage of fire energy (creativity, happiness), then smoking marijuana will 'feed your fire'. If you have an excess earth energy (clarity, love), then marijuana will 'part the earth'.
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Sep 20 2012 05:39pm
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Posting in fan thread.


y u no express your skewed view on "drugs".
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Sep 20 2012 07:29pm
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i wish you potheads would go look up the definition of "health" before applying it to marijuana. psychoactive drug use is detrimental to mental health so stop pretending your lungs are the only parts of your body that needs to be healthy.

you know what the end game of cancer is? death. so why on earth would you bad mouth doctors for giving cancer patients a CHANCE to live even if that chance is painful to get to? having a chance at living is better than no chance for most patients and they CHOOSE to go through hell to have a shot at life on the other end. cancer treatments work and you need to stop pretending they don't and talking down to doctors and patients who want nothing more than life to go on for themselves and others.

could of helped him what? manage the pain until he died? lots of stuff can do that but he still would of died. it wouldn't of cured his cancer so what makes marijuana so special when there are plenty of other drugs out there that could of done the same thing?

marijuana hasn't cured any disease so get that idea out of your head. marijuana in the medical field has primarily been used to manage pain, stimulate appetite and the obvious glaucoma treatment.


http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=64648648&f=90
example of marijuana affecting health by making animals healthier

and i like to smoke weed for the stress relieving effects
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Sep 20 2012 07:40pm
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http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=64648648&f=90
example of marijuana affecting health by making animals healthier

and i like to smoke weed for the stress relieving effects


marijuana isn't making them healthier. the test show that Cannabidiol is whats making them healthier.

stop trying to defend inhaling marijuana because a single part can be extracted and made into a useful medicine.
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Sep 20 2012 07:41pm
i just like smoke. i love cancer.
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Sep 20 2012 07:47pm
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marijuana isn't making them healthier. the test show that Cannabidiol is whats making them healthier.

stop trying to defend inhaling marijuana because a singlepart can be extracted and made into a useful medicine.


it's a part of marijuana, i don't see why i can't associate it with marijuana. as the study says, inhaling marijuana won't cure your cancer due to the low percentage of cannibidiol in it, but if the results prove to be valid then, even though slightly, marijuana is benefiting health. just as growers grow to produce a higher percentage of thc in their marijuana, future growers can grow to yield an increase in cannibidiol. thc content of marijuana has been reported to peak as high as 33%, what if cannibidiol gets to that percentage?

i feel that marijuana can be used in a similar manner as someone would get health benefits from a "glass of wine a day"

This post was edited by xcharliex on Sep 20 2012 07:52pm
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it's a part of marijuana, i don't see why i can't associate it with marijuana. as the study says, inhaling marijuana won't cure your cancer due to the low percentage of cannibidiol in it, but if the results prove to be valid then, even though slightly, marijuana is benefiting health. just as growers grow to produce a higher percentage of thc in their marijuana, future growers can grow to yield an increase in cannibidiol. thc content of marijuana has been reported to peak as high as 33%, what if cannibidiol gets to that percentage?


what if questions are better left to people who have the knowledge to make a realistic conclusion. i highly doubt either of us know enough about the physical composition of the plant to make a realistic conclusion on that matter.

you can't associate it with SMOKING marijuana because they have nothing to do with each other. thats like saying a honda civic has a good crash safety rating so my honda motorcycle is as safe as a honda civic in a crash just because they are both honda.

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Sep 20 2012 08:09pm
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what if questions are better left to people who have the knowledge to make a realistic conclusion. i highly doubt either of us know enough about the physical composition of the plant to make a realistic conclusion on that matter.

you can't associate it with SMOKING marijuana because they have nothing to do with each other. thats like saying a honda civic has a good crash safety rating so my honda motorcycle is as safe as a honda civic in a crash just because they are both honda.


as stated in the video on the discovery, the reason that smoking marijuana won't make cannibidiol have a significant effect is because of the losses that growers take to increase thc percentage.

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It is a major constituent of the plant, representing up to 40% in its extracts.


theoretically, smoking a lot of marijuana can increase your resistance to cancer.
plenty of sources say that smoking marijuana can release the effect of cannibidiol which does show that smoking marijuana has health benefits
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Medical marijuana, while still containing high amounts of THC, can contain as much as 40 percent cannabidiol in extracts.

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-cannabidiol.htm
i'll agree to disagree though

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