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Oct 25 2011 01:34am
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you are SPECIFICALLY asking for gullible people. anyone who believes in paranormal things based on videos by random people is gullible. if ghost we would all know it because they would affect everyone. i mean hell how many people have died?! even if its a small % circumstance(which is essentially being murdered or something) there would still be 10s of millions of ghost wandering around everywhere.

I already knew that you do not care for any evidence, but now I know that you would have to witness something paranormal for yourself to possibly believe that they are real.
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It's only guide is instinct... they are like bacterias

Yeah, but they have a chance to become people, unlike jellyfish and Venus flytraps.
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Oct 25 2011 01:37am
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I already knew that you do not care for any evidence, but now I know that you would have to witness something paranormal for yourself to possibly believe that they are real.
Yeah, but they have a chance to become people, unlike jellyfish and Venus flytraps.


random media isn't evidence. scientifically proven and backed claims are evidence.
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Oct 25 2011 01:39am
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random media isn't evidence. scientifically proven and backed claims are evidence.

If a camera or any other medium that you owned caught something paranormal, would you discount that as being evidence?
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Oct 25 2011 01:43am
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If a camera or any other medium that you owned caught something paranormal, would you discount that as being evidence?


i wouldn't run away therefore avoid ACTUAL INVESTIGATION of whatever i just seen. the thing is no one can actually follow up these sightings therefore they can't be confirmed. its the same as any other faith based system you have to work with maybes and pretend they are facts.
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Oct 25 2011 01:57am
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i wouldn't run away therefore avoid ACTUAL INVESTIGATION of whatever i just seen. the thing is no one can actually follow up these sightings therefore they can't be confirmed. its the same as any other faith based system you have to work with maybes and pretend they are facts.

You "would not run away"?
Ghost Hunters and Ghost Adventures try to communicate with these "souls" and have gotten intelligent responses sometimes, so how were they doing anything differently from what your last post suggested?
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Oct 25 2011 02:15am
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You "would not run away"?
Ghost Hunters and Ghost Adventures try to communicate with these "souls" and have gotten intelligent responses sometimes, so how were they doing anything differently from what your last post suggested?


You're using a TV show to back you up... Everyone knows those shows are a bunch of bull... You don't even need special effects (Besides some lighting and lights...) to make a TV show about ghosts...
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Oct 25 2011 02:18am
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While I am not arguing this that I have quoted, I believe that there is too much evidence of "souls" or whatever anyone wants to call them to discount their existence.


Oh, I'm not saying that "souls" do not exist. I'm a believer in ghosts, spirits etc. I guess what I was trying to say is that a unicellular sperm doesn't have a soul since there is no brain.

But I'll expand on that. The brain uses energy to produce consciousness, and presence of spirits can be detected as energy. But there needs to be a transition during death. It's a theory of mine that if the brain's energy is at a high enough state, then when it dies then the "conscious energy" can persist either in its entirety or in part, due to how heavily the energies weigh upon the fabric of the time-space continuum.
As you may know, certain areas of the brain serve different functions. The complex brains that humans have is a result of evolution... thus our ability to think has increased since our species diverged from other primates. But the small, primordial core of the brain is present in all animals. It regulates things like fear, hunger, instinct, etc. So something like a bird isn't capable of thinking like we do, but it is still aware and can experience the world in it's own way. But when the bird dies, there won't be a bird ghost because the brain is too small and the structure of synapses is too simple, thus the electromagnetic field that defines it's thoughts is feeble and cannot persist after death. Take the reverse, and imagine a highly advanced brain more developed than what humans have...something that has had alot longer to evolve. So like an alien's brain. The brain structure and synapse activity is developed enough to produce a powerful electromagnetic field, at least relative to ours. That's why people who encounter aliens often report that they can communicate telepathically, even read your mind, or just simply paralyze you. They can manipulate their brain's electromagnetic fields to reach out and taste, even interact, with yours. So when an alien dies, they also can persist as a ghost/spirit due to the high energies associated with their consciousness.

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You're using a TV show to back you up... Everyone knows those shows are a bunch of bull... You don't even need special effects (Besides some lighting and lights...) to make a TV show about ghosts...

It is easy to claim shenanigans on these, but what if you experienced a paranormal event in first person?
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Oct 25 2011 02:27am
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Oh, I'm not saying that "souls" do not exist. I'm a believer in ghosts, spirits etc. I guess what I was trying to say is that a unicellular sperm doesn't have a soul since there is no brain.

But I'll expand on that. The brain uses energy to produce consciousness, and presence of spirits can be detected as energy. But there needs to be a transition during death. It's a theory of mine that if the brain's energy is at a high enough state, then when it dies then the "conscious energy" can persist either in its entirety or in part, due to how heavily the energies
weigh upon the fabric of the time-space continuum.
As you may know, certain areas of the brain serve different functions. The complex brains that humans have is a result of evolution... thus our ability to think has increased since our species diverged from other primates. But the small, primordial core of the brain is present in all animals. It regulates things like fear, hunger, instinct, etc. So something like a bird isn't capable of thinking like we do, but it is still aware and can experience the world in it's own way. But when the bird dies, there won't be a bird ghost because the brain is too small and the structure of synapses is too simple, thus the electromagnetic field that defines it's thoughts is feeble and cannot persist after death. Take the reverse, and imagine a highly advanced brain more developed than what humans have...something that has had alot longer to evolve. So like an alien's brain. The brain structure and synapse activity is developed enough to produce a powerful electromagnetic field, at least relative to ours. That's why people who encounter aliens often report that they can communicate telepathically, even read your mind, or just simply paralyze you. They can manipulate their brain's electromagnetic fields to reach out and taste, even interact, with yours. So when an alien dies, they also can persist as a ghost/spirit due to the high energies associated with their consciousness.

This is why I did not want this in the religion section, because you have stated your theory of why souls could exist with a scientific approach, so I thank you for your response!
The telepathy amongst humans and aliens is interesting, too!
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Oct 25 2011 02:27am
Quote (Subwoofer @ Oct 25 2011 12:29am)
you are SPECIFICALLY asking for gullible people. anyone who believes in paranormal things based on videos by random people is gullible. if ghost we would all know it because they would affect everyone. i mean hell how many people have died?! even if its a small % circumstance(which is essentially being murdered or something) there would still be 10s of millions of ghost wandering around everywhere.


Not every spirit sticks around after death. Most "move on", so to speak.
However there very well could be that many ghosts wandering around. It's just a matter of detecting them. It requires a pretty powerful spirit to make itself noticed to the naked eye/ear. Most are too weak and require devices to be detected
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