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On one of the pages in this thread, dietryn said that eggs contain the same acid found in car batteries. I do not know if this is true going one way or the other, and I will openly admit I am to sleepy/lazy to google it atm. I do have a question for die tryn though. It is universally accepted that many of the chemicals, minerals, and heavy metals found in minute quantities in the soil are very harmfull for your body. These are found all over the world from the dirt around trees in Manhattan, to the most remote place of the Amazon, albeit in varying quantities. Is it not true that when a plant grows, it absorbs these substances which you inturn eat?

I am not trying to say what you and the other people have posted in this thread is wrong, I am just curious as to your views of this.

I tend to agree with you that cow and pork aren't the greatest thing in the world for ya. I still eat them, but I do agree that overall they are not the best foods. Eggs are better for you by far. You may or may not be right about it having car battery acid in the egg, but isn't it the same principle as the toxins and heavy metals absorbed by the plants we eat? Is it not simply a matter of how much of it is ingested? I wonder how many eggs would have to be ingested over a period of time to make a noticeable difference in your bodies ph? If you were worried about it couldn't you take a small dose of calcium bicarbonate to neutralize the acidity anyway?

Also someone said that it takes 10+ years to become deficient in b12. Is an egg high enough in b12 that eating one a week or month would be enough to provide you with enough? Before you rightfully accuse me, I did not read your links. I am to tired to atm. But if by any chance your wrong about your intestinal tract being able to produce enough b12, wouldn't you want to supplement it at least somewhat to be safe?

I agree with the statement that the fda doesn't have the publics health as its main intrest, but I also belive that no human, no group of humans, and no company can be completely infallable. They may be spot on 99% of the time, but they may screw up just a bit. Take all of it with a grain of salt.

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On one of the pages in this thread, dietryn said that eggs contain the same acid found in car batteries. I do not know if this is true going one way or the other, and I will openly admit I am to sleepy/lazy to google it atm.  I do have a question for die tryn though. It is universally accepted that many of the chemicals, minerals, and heavy metals  found in minute quantities in the soil are very harmfull for your body. These are found all over the world from the dirt around trees in Manhattan, to the most remote place of the Amazon, albeit in varying quantities. Is it not true that when a plant grows, it absorbs these substances which you inturn eat?

I am not trying to say what you and the other people have posted in this thread is wrong, I am just curious as to your views of this.

I tend to agree with you that cow and pork aren't the greatest thing in the world for ya. I still eat them, but I do agree that overall they are not the best foods. Eggs are better for you by far. You may or may not be right about it having car battery acid in the egg, but isn't it the same principle as the toxins and heavy metals absorbed by the plants we eat? Is it not simply a matter of how much of it is ingested? I wonder how many eggs would have to be ingested over a period of time to make a noticeable difference in your bodies ph? If you were worried about it couldn't you take a small dose of calcium bicarbonate to neutralize the acidity anyway?

Also someone said that it takes 10+ years to become deficient in b12. Is an egg high enough in b12 that eating one a week or month would be enough to provide you with enough? Before you rightfully accuse me, I did not read your links. I am to tired to atm. But if by any chance your wrong about your intestinal tract being able to produce enough b12, wouldn't you want to supplement it at least somewhat to be safe?

I agree with the statement that the fda doesn't have the publics health  as its main intrest, but I also belive that no human, no group of humans, and no company can be completely infallable. They may be spot on 99% of the time, but they  may screw up just a bit. Take all of it with a grain of salt.

I'm not really sure how to answer that, so are you saying that the green organic veggies I'm eating contain heavy metals like lead, mercury etc? Because I have never heard of this before. The environment as far as I know has the potential to effect the quality of the produce, but also depends on the type of produce.

Eggs are toxic and very acidic, green vegetables(even the ones grown through agriculture) are alkaline, so I really don't know what you're talking about with heavy metals. Eggs in general are acidic and toxic regardless of how they're made. There has to be a balance in the body, and that balance is an alkaline/acid ratio of 80/20 or 70/30, now the 20-30% acidic foods you eat have to be the "good" acidic foods other wise those little toxins will sooner or later over run your bodies defensive barriers and you will get sick, fat, and tired whether it be in 1 year or 50 years. The very instant you ingest an egg bacteria can be seen in the blood, so it doesn't take long at all.

It takes 20 parts alkalinity to neutralize 1 part acidity, so you would have to take a hell of a lot of acid-buffers to neutralize things like meat and dairy products. And remember, that's just to neutralize, you still have to consume more to support the alkaline design of the body, and on top of that the stress your body has to go through just to digest meat and dairy is ridiculous.

The body produces It's own B12. Dr. Young has been on a vegan based diet for over 30 years and he is not B12 deficient by any means, I've met him. Really getting tired of this whole deficient thing, I hear it too often, and It's very misleading on a plant based diet.
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Aug 11 2011 07:06pm
as far as plants go they will have extremely negligible amounts of any harmful stuff. that is unless heavily polluted. like areas next to highways and shit. some plants leach more than others. tobacco is a prime example. tobacco absorbs anything and everything. this is the main reason its bad for you considering modern growing techniques. and it does apply to a lesser extent to vegetables and shit.
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Aug 11 2011 08:54pm
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I'm not really sure how to answer that, so are you saying that the green organic veggies I'm eating contain heavy metals like lead, mercury etc? Because I have never heard of this before. The environment as far as I know has the potential to effect the quality of the produce, but also depends on the type of produce.

Eggs are toxic and very acidic, green vegetables(even the ones grown through agriculture) are alkaline, so I really don't know what you're talking about with heavy metals. Eggs in general are acidic and toxic regardless of how they're made. There has to be a balance in the body, and that balance is an alkaline/acid ratio of 80/20 or 70/30, now the 20-30% acidic foods you eat have to be the "good" acidic foods other wise those little toxins will sooner or later over run your bodies defensive barriers and you will get sick, fat, and tired whether it be in 1 year or 50 years. The very instant you ingest an egg bacteria can be seen in the blood, so it doesn't take long at all.

It takes 20 parts alkalinity to neutralize 1 part acidity, so you would have to take a hell of a lot of acid-buffers to neutralize things like meat and dairy products. And remember, that's just to neutralize, you still have to consume more to support the alkaline design of the body, and on top of that the stress your body has to go through just to digest meat and dairy is ridiculous.

The body produces It's own B12. Dr. Young has been on a vegan based diet for over 30 years and he is not B12 deficient by any means, I've met him. Really getting tired of this whole deficient thing, I hear it too often, and It's very misleading on a plant based diet.


Well, the alkaline environment thing is pretty much also misinformation. It's true, cancer cells don't grow well in an alkaline environment, but the part that makes it BS is no cells grow well in an alkaline environment. The pH of the body is kept pretty constant at about 7.4, and that's because the myriad of proteins we employ in every cell in our bodies function optimally there. Every protein is a string of amino acids, and every amino acid has an amino and carboxy terminal to it, and as you'll see if/when you take biochemistry, the pH can effect whether the amino or carboxy terminus is protonated or deprotonated, and consequently whether the amino acid has a charge, which dictates the 3D structure of the protein. Change the structure, and you change the function. Change the function, and well, let's just say that if car engines cooked eggs instead of turned wheels we wouldn't get very far. Different cancers prefer different environments. Some cancers benefit from radicals because of how dangerous they are - they can do serious damage to DNA which tends to perpetuate the malignancy, but there will come a point where that is just suicide for the cell too. So cancer cells sort of walk a tight-rope/fine line between inappropriate proliferation, and self-destruction.

Hows that
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Aug 11 2011 09:19pm
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Well, the alkaline environment thing is pretty much also misinformation. It's true, cancer cells don't grow well in an alkaline environment, but the part that makes it BS is no cells grow well in an alkaline environment. The pH of the body is kept pretty constant at about 7.4, and that's because the myriad of proteins we employ in every cell in our bodies function optimally there. Every protein is a string of amino acids, and every amino acid has an amino and carboxy terminal to it, and as you'll see if/when you take biochemistry, the pH can effect whether the amino or carboxy terminus is protonated or deprotonated, and consequently whether the amino acid has a charge, which dictates the 3D structure of the protein. Change the structure, and you change the function. Change the function, and well, let's just say that if car engines cooked eggs instead of turned wheels we wouldn't get very far. Different cancers prefer different environments. Some cancers benefit from radicals because of how dangerous they are - they can do serious damage to DNA which tends to perpetuate the malignancy, but there will come a point where that is just suicide for the cell too. So cancer cells sort of walk a tight-rope/fine line between inappropriate proliferation, and self-destruction.

Hows that

The human body is alkaline by design and acidic by function, so yes, our cells DO grow well in an alkaline environment, you do realize 7.4 is alkaline right? Even if slightly so. If you test the pH of any cancer patient guarantee you will see they measure around 5.3-5.8, I measure in on average around 7.0-7.2, what about you? Like I've said countless times already in other threads and this one, the goal is not to make the pH of the body like 10.0 or anything, the goal is to maintain the alkalinity that the body needs to be at, and by consuming things like meat, dairy, peanut products, corn products, yeast, high sugar drinks, sodas, mushrooms, coffee, tea, sugar, alcohol, artificial sweeteners, most store bought condiments, stored grains, high carb foods, etc you put a huge strain on the body by pouring all that unnecessary acid in on a daily basis, forcing the body to use It's alkaline buffering system 24/7, and after 1 year or 40 years, depending how strong you are inside, your body will break down at the cellular level, and you will develop a chronic illness.

All that stuff means next to nothing when you maintain the alkaline design by eating and drinking the right foods. You spend as much time looking at useless stuff as drug doctors do, they spend there whole lives researching "cancer cells" and developing more and different useless drugs that do nothing but cost money, kill people, give people massive side effects which in many cases include death. It's so much easier and safer to just maintain health, then what we are currently doing.


I think It's great that you sought your teacher for advice, unfortunately she is looking at the same picture that mainstream is looking at, which is in the other direction, and has been failing for a very long time. More drugs, more deaths, more money.

Looking forward to hearing the next from response from your professor.
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Aug 11 2011 10:20pm
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The human body is alkaline by design and acidic by function, so yes, our cells DO grow well in an alkaline environment, you do realize 7.4 is alkaline right? Even if slightly so. If you test the pH of any cancer patient guarantee you will see they measure around 5.3-5.8, I measure in on average around 7.0-7.2, what about you? Like I've said countless times already in other threads and this one, the goal is not to make the pH of the body like 10.0 or anything, the goal is to maintain the alkalinity that the body needs to be at, and by consuming things like meat, dairy, peanut products, corn products, yeast, high sugar drinks, sodas, mushrooms, coffee, tea, sugar, alcohol, artificial sweeteners, most store bought condiments, stored grains, high carb foods, etc you put a huge strain on the body by pouring all that unnecessary acid in on a daily basis, forcing the body to use It's alkaline buffering system 24/7, and after 1 year or 40 years, depending how strong you are inside, your body will break down at the cellular level, and you will develop a chronic illness.

All that stuff means next to nothing when you maintain the alkaline design by eating and drinking the right foods. You spend as much time looking at useless stuff as drug doctors do, they spend there whole lives researching "cancer cells" and developing more and different useless drugs that do nothing but cost money, kill people, give people massive side effects which in many cases include death. It's so much easier and safer to just maintain health, then what we are currently doing.


I think It's great that you sought your teacher for advice, unfortunately she is looking at the same picture that mainstream is looking at, which is in the other direction, and has been failing for a very long time. More drugs, more deaths, more money.

Looking forward to hearing the next from response from your professor.


Can you show me statistical nubmers of how many people who had cancer were cured to do alkalinity?
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Aug 11 2011 10:44pm
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Can you show me statistical nubmers of how many people who had cancer were cured to do alkalinity?

If you Google cancer cure + alkalinity + stories or something similar along those lines I'm sure you would find quite a bit. You can read a testimony here: http://articlesofhealth.***/2011_07_01_archive.html and here: http://www.phmiracleliving.com/t-type-I-diabetes-documented-reversal.aspx all 3 people have reversed there chronic illness 100% which the drug industry says is impossible. I reversed my disease 100% and my doctor said "yeah well I doubt that it was because of your diet" I just laugh. I can't remember who mentioned the "germ" theory, but looking for your statistics I came across this: http://www.phmiracleliving.com/Articles/2006-11-17-pHforPrevention.html Here are some testimony videos: http://www.phmiracleliving.com/t-Videos-Testimonials.aspx

You can also try emailing Dr. Young if you want full statistical numbers, he might keep track of them, but I don't keep track.

It's practically a crime to say that an alkaline diet reverses disease and cancer, which is why you'll almost never hear about it publicly, people are silenced.
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If you Google cancer cure + alkalinity + stories or something similar along those lines I'm sure you would find quite a bit. You can read a testimony here: http://articlesofhealth.***/2011_07_01_archive.html and here: http://www.phmiracleliving.com/t-type-I-diabetes-documented-reversal.aspx all 3 people have reversed there chronic illness 100% which the drug industry says is impossible. I reversed my disease 100% and my doctor said "yeah well I doubt that it was because of your diet" I just laugh. I can't remember who mentioned the "germ" theory, but looking for your statistics I came across this: http://www.phmiracleliving.com/Articles/2006-11-17-pHforPrevention.html Here are some testimony videos: http://www.phmiracleliving.com/t-Videos-Testimonials.aspx

You can also try emailing Dr. Young if you want full statistical numbers, he might keep track of them, but I don't keep track.

It's practically a crime to say that an alkaline diet reverses disease and cancer, which is why you'll almost never hear about it publicly, people are silenced.


thanks alex jones. meanwhile back in reality
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Aug 11 2011 11:18pm
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Cancer can be cured, sure, but there is absolutely zero evidence that those alternative medicines that they're talking about actually have any effect. If there was, it would be published in a scientific journal. Even if the AMA and the FDA were corrupt, scientific journals don't squelch sound science due to the prejudice of any member of the scientific community.


if they were corrupt im pretty sure scientists would either get paid off to keep quiet and the ones that get close and are loud about it "disappear" lol not trying to sound crazy but this shit happens in movies prob real life too

world needs crime and diseases

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