alright, where is your definitive proof? Still iso

exactly there is currently no leverage for either side to use so it comes down to what works which is chemical farming. we do it the way we do it for a reason and thats because its the best method thus far and you need to admit that and move on.

obvious dodge is obvious

idk why i ever bother arguing with an idiot like you. You claimed these stuides exist and that u had definitive proof but the u admit that you dont?

This thread is over. You have once again dodged and lost. Im done with this thread

learn to read. you're the only one here claiming to have proof for your side and all of your claims about GM food. i'm simply saying you are talking out of your ass.

so back to you.....either post up some actual proof of your claims that has definitive points or stop replying.

i have...
and when i did u didnt read them

u havent posted any sort of source or anything. I believe you are the one who is talking out of ur ass.
Ill post mine after you post yours. Im not going to waste my time with you when you're just going to skip over them and try to say why study is flawed without even understanding it. You have still not cited ANYTHING at all. Now cite something, or please just leave.

You keep trying to turn this around on me because you're being called out and you cant deliver. It is abundantly clear to me you have done absolutely no research on this subject and are speaking off extremely limited knowledge of what is actually going on.

Im done arguing with you. Post up your sources if you would like to have an intelligent discussion

That is 100% fake.

Kid memorized everything and vomited all the words out. So easy to tell, meh..


edit: And you know why did they put a kid to say it? Cause that would cause impact and ppl would talk about it, and actually think about it, and easier agree with it, since it was a kid saying it all.

edit #2: Notice how he said RIGHT at the beginning "Hello Im Birk and Im 11 years old" lol .. already trying to call the attention from ppl for the fact that hes 11.. emphasizing it.. lol really fake..

edit #3: This reminds me of Zeitgeist


This post was edited by IDKY on Dec 20 2010 03:42pm

its your thread so your responsible for providing a reasonable argument for your side...you have yet to do so. ill make you a list of things you've said that you can reply with proof for each one.

1.organic has the same shelf life as chemical farmed produce
2.organic is more nutritious
3.gm foods have no positive side
4.gm foods have shown to cause health problems for people
5.gm foods are an adequate replacement for chemical farming all around

my arguments go as follows

1.you can observe this for yourself at home and see that organic foods decays much faster
2. no actual proof has ever been shown its just one of those things that just makes sense so people go with it.
3.disease and and disaster resistant so they are way more reliable as a food source
4. if this was true they most definitely would not be on the market
5. too risky/cant grow stuff that is in higher demand as you have to follow crop rotation and planting methods that don't allow for it/decays too fast to distribute like we do chemically farmed foods/cost more to produce.

other things i can't think of atm but there ya go start with these and show all of the so called proof you have to counter these arguments.

yep. Im offically done here
Go read those things i posted eariler. It backs up mine and debunks every one of your claims
I dont even need to cite more sources because its clear to me you havent even read the ones i posted. Saying i havent provided backup for my claims is unbelievable. You obviously have no interest in reading anything else on the subject. If you want to remain completely stubborn in your position, then i cant force you to read anything. But dont you dare try to argue with me about somthing in which you know absolutly nothing. Your argumentive tactics are completely hypocritical. I have already provided a few of my sources, and you have not done anything of the sort, not even close.

Thanks for playing, you have lost. Go read a book and learn somthing

Toothfairy is obviously the victor in this one-sided debate.

you have posted things that really enjoy the word "potential"

you have yet to show solid evidence of your claims as so many of them defy reason.

stop dodging and supply your argument because the previous links are not even close to definitive and are propaganda based as we both know it. honestly one of them had a stupid part added just to add a scary factor about farmers letting sheep graze on cotton that creates its own pesticide killed the sheep...i don't recall raw cotton plants to be food for humans and a responsible farmer shouldn't of let animals eat something that wasn't breed for edibility.

so again...post up some credible arguments that don't use scare tactics for the stupid and don't really have any answers but present opinions to be facts. (aka i dont want to see the word potential anywhere)