both sides are lunatics

everything is nothing

why even argue this

The germ theory of disease that microorganisms are the cause of many diseases is "just a theory" or it would be called scientific fact! It could be demons are actually causing diseases.

I laughed at this.

I agree with this Except I don't believe The Big Bang was the beginning of everything either 'cos whatever was before The Big Bang came from somewhere and then that came from somewhere and so on and so on so basically it is impossible for humans to know unless a time machine is invented and they go back and find out lol (crazy talk), but assuming some magical being created it is just like crazy talk imo. For a very simple explanation of why God exists watch 'The invention of lying' plus factor in that the myth of God was created when they didn't have explanations for so many things, where as nowadays so so so many things they attributed to God have been explained via Science. But people can believe what they want, they just shouldn't go around being anti gay, anti abortion etc.



I think that is kind of the same as using God as an answer for things we don't understand yet.

Edit: Friend just put this on facebook, made me chuckle. "Atheism is a non-prophet organisation"

This post was edited by JukeBOXX on Jun 13 2010 12:15am

i like your point , but only the first is a fact

about infinitely faster made me lol too.

This post was edited by ForsakenNz on Jun 14 2010 05:42am

arguing over atheism/agnosticism/polytheism/monotheism is by far the most ignorant argument one can ever have. no one from any one of them is ever going to change their opinion no matter what "facts" or "theories" you vommit all over them.

there is noooo inconsistancy in atheist "belief" and yes it is a belief. nihilism is the lack of beliefs. its simple binary. theism=1, beleving in deity(s) and atheism=0, no deity(s)

the true inconsistancy is in theism. there is montheisitic belief structure ie the abrahamic religions of judaism, islam, and christianity (dont get me started on these wackadoos); polytheistic ie ancient rome/greece, and hinduism; and theres nontheistic faiths like budhism (gautama was not a deity)

jabbering on about theoretical physics if u dont have a phd only makes u look like a tard. we all have seen the specials on discovery channel

a personal musing, but this theory is also been laid to the waste side by many scientists. In order for this to happen, all information (energy) from said black hole to create a new universe would disappear from the previous universe which contained the black hole. thus, this would mean we would lose this information (energy), which the law of conservation of energy says energy cannot be created or destroyed, thus this would violate a fundamental LAW of physics

also, the universe is not contracting

second law of thermodynamics - entropy always increases

using a simple definition of entropy as an increase in disorder, the universe is always expanding, and the entropy of the universe is always increase. Thus it would always HAVE to expand, if it contracted, entropy would decrease because the universe would become more ordered/less chaotic. this can not/does not happen, thus the universe is always expanding, and even more, it is expanding faster and faster, not slowing down.

these are fundamental laws, they can not be changed

gravity is a rift in space-time WHICH ALL OBJECTS MAKE no matter how big or how small, so there will always be gravity



physicists are starting to come back to this idea. a new theory (sometime in the past 3-12 months) was thought up that the dimension we live in (as well as our universe) is floating around in a sea of other dimensions and when these dimensions run into each other, it releases an energy equivalent to the release of energy at the big bang, thus the cycle repeats itself.

also, the universe accelerating has nothing to do with this theory, that is the theory of dark matter/energy.



ONE LAST THING:

to those of you who believe in god and the bible and believe all the non-sense that spills out of this book (it is quite a good read), you should look into the Epic of Gilgamesh. This book is almost 1000 years older than the first book of the bible, Genesis, and in Gilgamesh, there is also a man, a woman, and a place called Eden, where there is a serpent (sound familiar). If this tells you nothing, let me help you out. The human imagination created 'God' and it is in human nature to believe that there has to be something more. That's it, problem solved. I'll also save you some more time, nothing happens when you die.

This post was edited by lottt86 on Jun 16 2010 12:48am