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Sep 21 2009 05:28pm
Quote (wouldbe @ Mon, Aug 24 2009, 06:22am)
1) it would take longer than 13 billion years from the singularity for mankind to evolve from rocks

2) how our planet supports and sustains life is rather suspicious. everything from how water recycles, to oxygen production, to the atmosphere's protection, it's all too coincidentally perfect.

objectively speaking, it would be more unbelieveable that there isn't a higher being who made it all. everything about how the universe works suggests that it was designed to support life, somewhere.


coincidentally perfect? coincidentally perfect! Wow??? coincidentally perfect!? SERIOUSLY??? coincidentally one planet on 5634957349673460 planets, seems a fine coincidence to me.
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Sep 21 2009 05:45pm
Quote (wouldbe @ Mon, Aug 24 2009, 04:22am)
1) it would take longer than 13 billion years from the singularity for mankind to evolve from rocks

2) how our planet supports and sustains life is rather suspicious. everything from how water recycles, to oxygen production, to the atmosphere's protection, it's all too coincidentally perfect.

objectively speaking, it would be more unbelieveable that there isn't a higher being who made it all. everything about how the universe works suggests that it was designed to support life, somewhere.



I think you are looking at it from a closed perspective.. you are saying that there are too many coincidences on our planet.. I simply see that as life's adapatation to its surroundings.. To me, no it's not that special that oxygen is recycled over and over again on Earth, or water for that matter.. Oxygen and water are just the most common widely distributed foundations for life, but life can exist in other environments and conditions, extreame heat and cold. And some bacteria can even live in strong acids and bases. There is no overwhelming evidence that life only exists in Earth or near-Earth envirionments. In fact, I think that one day we will find out that planets like Earth are like little Oasis's in the vast desert of space.
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Sep 24 2009 05:43pm
WTf is religion? get rid of it
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Quote (DaKiller90 @ Sun, Aug 30 2009, 08:12am)
And how did "God" start existing ?

Seriously, the earth is the only planet we know that can support life and we know lots of planets, so it just happened that every factor to make life were here. It's not like every planet could support life. So, I mostly beleive in the randomness of things, and "chaos theory" explain it a bit.


Stupid question. Which no christian should ever be expected to answer.

That's the whole point of the thesis of religion. It is an explanation to the unknown; you don't question the beginning.

You may as well be asking "What caused the big bang?". I see your question as a degradation to those involved in the belief of higher entities.
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Sep 25 2009 09:22am
Quote (xpondersx @ Fri, Sep 25 2009, 09:43am)
WTf is religion? get rid of it


Why?

Makes people better people.
Makes people feel more secure in life.
Can help to develop friendships in local communities.

In my opinion, it's great.

Only thing that messes shit up is manipulation of people when under the influence of the religion.
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Sep 25 2009 09:48am
Quote (Microbiologist @ Wed, Aug 26 2009, 10:54pm)
Yet, you haven't seen, felt, touched any other life forms. Therefore, they don't exist.

cwutIdidthere?

You guys lack coherence.


yes... we haven't yet been able to see other life forms. but there at least still is the chance to do so. explain to me how you're supposed to 'see' God?
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Sep 25 2009 10:09am
Quote (Epacepac @ Sat, Sep 26 2009, 01:48am)
yes... we haven't yet been able to see other life forms. but there at least still is the chance to do so. explain to me how you're supposed to 'see' God?


Well, just like you're supposed to see a life form of course. With your eyes.

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Sep 25 2009 10:52am
Quote (wouldbe @ Mon, Aug 24 2009, 02:22am)
1) it would take longer than 13 billion years from the singularity for mankind to evolve from rocks

2) how our planet supports and sustains life is rather suspicious. everything from how water recycles, to oxygen production, to the atmosphere's protection, it's all too coincidentally perfect.

objectively speaking, it would be more unbelieveable that there isn't a higher being who made it all. everything about how the universe works suggests that it was designed to support life, somewhere.


go to my link above my sig.. it explains alot and at the end offers an idea of 'God' as more of a multiversal scientist, its pretty interesting
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Sep 30 2009 11:16pm
Quote (wouldbe @ Mon, Aug 24 2009, 10:22am)
1)  it would take longer than 13 billion years from the singularity for mankind to evolve from rocks

2)  how our planet supports and sustains life is rather suspicious.  everything from how water recycles, to oxygen production, to the atmosphere's protection, it's all too coincidentally perfect.

objectively speaking, it would be more unbelieveable that there isn't a higher being who made it all.  everything about how the universe works suggests that it was designed to support life, somewhere.


Who says we are made from rocks?

Stars get produced by clouds of dust throw gravity. Inside a star nuclear fusion takes place that is producing chemicals such as hydrogen, carbon, etc. Essential ones for life. When The star dies for example with a supernova those chemicals that are essential for life are expelled. You wonder how those chemicals can form organisms. Its especially hard to imagine it when when you think about recent organisms but I believe the first organisms were nothing like worms or insects they were far far far more rimitive. Indeed so primitive they wouldn't even seem to show any signs of life. Far more primitive then a bacteria or virus. I do not exactly know how life forms all I can do is to make it a bid more easy to imagine. Definately easier to imagine then that a human being has formed from a rock.
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