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Jun 25 2016 12:29pm
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spherical earth isn't an atheist theory.. what does not believing in a god have to do with geometry? this is high level lunacy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tests_of_general_relativity many are listed here, and there are many more available from basic research if you are that interested

what are some experiments that prove general relativity false? Math does not use circular logic, what makes you believe this? You can observe other planets, or the moon, yourself. What makes you think that the Earth is flat but all these other planets are spherical?

Why do you think all of NASA, Space-X, Russia, China, France, Japan, China, UK, India, Russia, Ukraine, Israel, Iran and anyone else involved in sending a satellite or person into space, are all in some grand conspiracy? How is this even plausible and for what gain?

The most simple explanation would most definitely not be some grand conspiracy between countries and tens of thousands of employees, it would be accepting the fact that Earth is spherical by observation and by the laws of physics.


I like this quote from that page - Post-Newtonian tests of gravity
Early tests of general relativity were hampered by the lack of viable competitors to the theory: it was not clear what sorts of tests would distinguish it from its competitors. General relativity was the only known relativistic theory of gravity compatible with special relativity and observations.


And then it changed with Nasa:

Red shift theory, light bending theory, frame dragging, Gravitational Lensing, Gravitational waves, it's so funny.

Whatever, believe whatever you want, but Is it strange that Nasa has never been out of low earth orbit in over 40 years? You believe in light bending when they can't even show Water bending?

Listen to this conversation with Nasa scientist Nicholas Veronica of Sofia Science center wich proves that Hubble is actually just some equipment they put into an airplane




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Jun 25 2016 01:38pm
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Nasa has never been out of low earth orbit in over 40 years?

More than a dozen missions have left Earth orbit in the last 40 years, many of them preforming gravity-assist orbital maneuvers. You know, that thing (gravity) you say don't exist in your trolling.
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Jun 26 2016 12:10am
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I like this quote from that page - Post-Newtonian tests of gravity
Early tests of general relativity were hampered by the lack of viable competitors to the theory: it was not clear what sorts of tests would distinguish it from its competitors. General relativity was the only known relativistic theory of gravity compatible with special relativity and observations.


And then it changed with Nasa:

Red shift theory, light bending theory, frame dragging, Gravitational Lensing, Gravitational waves, it's so funny.

Whatever, believe whatever you want, but Is it strange that Nasa has never been out of low earth orbit in over 40 years? You believe in light bending when they can't even show Water bending?

Listen to this conversation with Nasa scientist Nicholas Veronica of Sofia Science center wich proves that Hubble is actually just some equipment they put into an airplane
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ItXCzyUt-A

http://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/ed10-0182-01_2.jpg


I will believe what the evidence leads, and the evidence overwhelming supports a spherical earth and the existence of gravity. To believe what you believe you must deny reality and substitute your own delusions.
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Jul 3 2016 04:18am
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Red shift theory, light bending theory, frame dragging, Gravitational Lensing, Gravitational waves, it's so funny.

^Red shift was Hubble, nothing to do with nasa even though they named a ship after him
It's funny how all our science supports these 'theorys' and the only thing going against them some guys whining on forums that we've been lied to by like half of the rest of the population. At what point would it be worth telling people and starting to do real science rather than having to get more and more people to go along with it.
You release humans aren't good liers right? or do they manage to hire everyone who is an amazing actors/not going to tell a soul even their loved ones on death bed? All you'd have to do is go up to someone working at nasa and say 'flat earth' in their ear and watch them flinch. instead they'd probably look at you with a 'what the fuck are you talking about? look on their face

man i know you shouldn't have mentioned the fundamental forces on this forum! shame on you with your hocus science
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Jul 3 2016 08:23am
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^Red shift was Hubble, nothing to do with nasa even though they named a ship after him
It's funny how all our science supports these 'theorys' and the only thing going against them some guys whining on forums that we've been lied to by like half of the rest of the population. At what point would it be worth telling people and starting to do real science rather than having to get more and more people to go along with it.
You release humans aren't good liers right? or do they manage to hire everyone who is an amazing actors/not going to tell a soul even their loved ones on death bed? All you'd have to do is go up to someone working at nasa and say 'flat earth' in their ear and watch them flinch. instead they'd probably look at you with a 'what the fuck are you talking about? look on their face

man i know you shouldn't have mentioned the fundamental forces on this forum! shame on you with your hocus science


Hubble is just Sofia, stop believing in hocus pocus science.
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Jul 6 2016 05:37am
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I will believe what the evidence leads, and the evidence overwhelming supports a spherical earth and the existence of gravity. To believe what you believe you must deny reality and substitute your own delusions.


If you want to believe the evidence - there is no proof of gravity, the sphere is just an assumption, the things you think are true turn out to be total myths, there are lots of proof Nasa lies every chance they get, and you are completely deluded, but it's not like your actually meant to notice that.
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Jul 6 2016 10:58am
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Hubble is just Sofia, stop believing in hocus pocus science.


Why should it be the same? Sofia is made for infrared radiation observation. That's why you can fly around with it in an airplane.
Hubble was made mainly for observation in the range of visible to ultraviolet light. These are completely different purposes.
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Jul 6 2016 03:02pm
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Why should it be the same? Sofia is made for infrared radiation observation. That's why you can fly around with it in an airplane.
Hubble was made mainly for observation in the range of visible to ultraviolet light. These are completely different purposes.


Well if you actually not only listen but actually understand what they are talking about in the video i posted in post#61- you'll see how the deception is real, and that question you ask will be answered.
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Jul 6 2016 04:52pm
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If you want to believe the evidence - there is no proof of gravity, the sphere is just an assumption, the things you think are true turn out to be total myths, there are lots of proof Nasa lies every chance they get, and you are completely deluded, but it's not like your actually meant to notice that.


To be honest.... there is plenty of evidence making it pretty clear that gravity or "something whatever you want to call it" with its properties is in effect/exists.

Think about how scientists send probes to distant planets. Take the most recent one that is still on the news. The Juno mission uses the gravity of the planets to act as a sling shot because of "gravity". This allows scientists to send the probe with no fuel for example. Then you have the new awesome footage of Jupiter moons orbiting around the planet... To deny a force like gravity exists is not of reason. Maybe it has properties we don't fully understand, maybe it works in different ways than we think. But it's effects on the universe around us documented by photo and video and data is clear as day.

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Jul 6 2016 05:06pm
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Well if you actually not only listen but actually understand what they are talking about in the video i posted in post#61- you'll see how the deception is real, and that question you ask will be answered.


I guess not. In the first part this guy is kind of surprised by the fact that Sofia has a much better resolution in the infrared than Hubble (which is not really surprising) and later he tries to convince us that Hubble kind of never existed (in a short summary).

I don't know how you conclude from this that Hubble is the same than Sofia.
Even if that would be true, Sofia could never gather the data Hubble was supposed to.
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