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Nov 7 2014 01:48pm
i didn't dodge it - i corrected myself and told you to google it. Why would i take the time to do this, when clearly you are intelligent enough to find these resources yourself...
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damages & impairs*
just google dude, it's not difficult to find research leading to this.




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However the testicular cancer thing idk, might be true my mind is open.


how could you say it might be true when there is tons of research out there, a few of which I referenced saying that it does lead to that and bullous disease?

This thread is the pros and cons of marijuana.

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i didn't dodge it - i corrected myself and told you to google it. Why would i take the time to do this, when clearly you are intelligent enough to find these resources yourself...






how could you say it might be true when there is tons of research out there, a few of which I referenced saying that it does lead to that and bullous disease?

This thread is the pros and cons of marijuana.


Only thing I found was memory and cognitive problems which is not damaging and impairing brain cells.

When I'm saying ''it might true'' I mean the studies are bit inconclusive, we should do WAY more studies about it. From what I've read they all say it's a possible link

http://www.cancer.org/cancer/news/study-links-marijuana-use-to-testicular-cancer
However, this type of study can’t prove that a factor actually causes the disease. Other types of studies are needed for this.

Bullous disease of the lung and cannabis smoking: insufficient evidence for a causative link
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1360494/
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Nov 7 2014 02:06pm
Any study of any kind will always say
"Possible"
"Insufficient"
"Could"
"Potentially"

That way zero lawsuits happen.

Just how stock brokers say, you "could" make money investing in google.

The articles you referenced used words similar to these... A few of the articles that you linked had the doctors saying things like,

"Tashkin said that while he still believes marijuana is potentially harmful"

So yeah, this thread isn't about whose right and whose wrong really.

It's about the pros and cons.
After presentation of both, it's up to the reader to decide.


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Any study of any kind will always say
"Possible"
"Insufficient"
"Could"
"Potentially"

That way zero lawsuits happen.

Just how stock brokers say, you "could" make money investing in google.


Can we agree on some things lol?

Cons :

Can lead to respiratory problems such as a collapsed lungs (heavy use)
Can lead to cognitive and memory problems (heavy use)
Can lead to testicular cancer (heavy use)
Can lead to anxiety (or cure it) or other mental problems

Pros :

Offers a somewhat healthier alternative to alcohol as long as it's taken in moderation
Temporary relaxation
Opens your mind
Social lubricant
Compounds in marijuana have been found to inhibit cancer cells growth (you have to ingest high thc content oil too)
Medical properties (helps sleeping, reduce anxiety(or make it worse), much more.

You gotta admit that if you had taken marijuana in moderation (2 time a week max) it would not have been the same.

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There are anti-inflammatory, anti-oxidant, anti-convulsant, and many other medical uses for CBD.
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I'd also like to add this:

If marijuana is better for a person overall, why does the military not allow people who fail a THC drug test in?

Want to know the discharge code for those who fail a THC drug test while active is?
RE-4 code
AKA, scum of the earth, not wanted, not a contributor to society.


Because of the bias people have?
The government have been trying to show marijuana in a bad light since the 30s.

Just now marijuana is beggining to be more accepted and Obama himself said marijuana is safer than alcohol and cigarettes.
It's only a question of time before nobody drug tests anymore (might be decades but it will come).

And the stereotype of the lazy stoner is not true in all cases... That's generalization.
My friend smokes marijuana but he's going in the army soon and he's quitting pot for that. You can not find someone more hyped about the army than my friend.

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Offers a somewhat healthier alternative to alcohol as long as it's taken in moderation
Temporary relaxation
Opens your mind
Social lubricant
Compounds in marijuana have been found to inhibit cancer cells growth (you have to ingest high thc content oil too)
Medical properties (helps sleeping, reduce anxiety(or make it worse), much more.


Here is the flaw, my opinion of course.

Suggesting people who use marijuana in moderation is just silly - majority of users smoke at least once a day with a high lasting for 1 hour +
Comparing it to alcohol is just out of the question - My wife is a doctor at Mayo Clinic here in rochester, mn. She drinks 1 beer a night. If she were to smoke a joint, she wouldn't be healthier. She used to smoke when I did, and absolutely despises it's effects and how it made her much more anxious when she came down from it.
Opens your mind? Dude... seriously.. To what? if you mean it gets you high - then ok.. But if you think it opens your mind in a positive aspect, why don't generals in the USMC or army smoke pot?
Social Lubricant? So is increasing your self confidence.
In terms of helping one sleep, melatonin induces a much deeper more rewarding sleep than marijuana could ever dream of.
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did you seriously just say, OBAMA himself said?
wow..
just wow..

All respect lost for you man. sorry.
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cool for you friend, i'm sure he will struggle from the withdrawals during boot camp. though it is the army so it's not too difficult.

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Nov 7 2014 02:26pm
I mean you are burning and inhaling burnt paper often usually the saying goes anything black is a carcinogen that causes cancer.
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I mean you are burning and inhaling burnt paper often usually the saying goes anything black is a carcinogen that causes cancer.


liiiike no it doesn't maaaaaaaaan...

weeeed's just awesome and amazingggg...

the healinggg properties are like out of this worldd maannn...
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