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Mar 1 2013 12:42pm
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they have a life time of around 10min or less high density clouds they creat


Again nothing to do with the ionosphere.

Did find something interesting though. While researching this barrie trower i have found that he has no published papers with any credible source for such articles, and much of what I have found on him is just the same shit posted on conspiracy forums. Can you perhaps find some credible scientific sources to help support your claim that he is correct? Because all I have found out that is he lacks a understanding of anything he is talking about and so do you for taking his word as fact.
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Mar 1 2013 12:51pm
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Again nothing to do with the ionosphere.

Did find something interesting though. While researching this barrie trower i have found that he has no published papers with any credible source for such articles, and much of what I have found on him is just the same shit posted on conspiracy forums. Can you perhaps find some credible scientific sources to help support your claim that he is correct? Because all I have found out that is he lacks a understanding of anything he is talking about and so do you for taking his word as fact.


Well when someone 's background is all military based hard to get info but seems like a reasonible request I looked up some of his interviews. seems he is respected by some and attacked by others. ofc you got too expect these attacks when he says something like "the usa will kill more people in peace time then all the terrorist put together"
just did not expect soo much attacks on jsp ..unless ofc people that may work for someone like gov or microwave emissions type of job would ofc attack him.

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Well when someone 's background is all military based hard to get info but seems like a reasonible request I looked up some of his interviews. seems he is respected by some and attacked by others. ofc you got too expect these attacks when he says something like "the usa will kill more people in peace time then all the terrorist put together"
just did not expect soo much attacks on jsp ..unless ofc people that may work for someone like gov or microwave emissions type of job would ofc attack him.


So anyone with a simple high school education makes them a government worker now? I mean seriously this shit you learn in high school science. I would hate to see what level of government actual scientists work for. Openly attacking misinformation or information that is outright wrong doesn't mean you work for the government, it means you have an education.

Additionally, I'm still waiting on some of those sources. If you can't find something credible for him, then find some other credible source that helps prove what he is saying is true. The ones I've found show that he is false. Now out of everything he has said, yes there might be some truth in there, but from what I'm seeing only a small portion of it is.
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Mar 1 2013 02:23pm
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So anyone with a simple high school education makes them a government worker now? I mean seriously this shit you learn in high school science. I would hate to see what level of government actual scientists work for. Openly attacking misinformation or information that is outright wrong doesn't mean you work for the government, it means you have an education.

Additionally, I'm still waiting on some of those sources. If you can't find something credible for him, then find some other credible source that helps prove what he is saying is true. The ones I've found show that he is false. Now out of everything he has said, yes there might be some truth in there, but from what I'm seeing only a small portion of it is.


Well I searched but all I find is him telling his back ground and other vids he made....but the subject is highly classified soo would be hard to establish credible source's backing him up.

one has too see this as a possible reason and plus the fear factor of the gov stopping whistle blowers more in that last 10 years...just ask reporters about their sources drying up. it is not are you a threat to the people but it is are you a threat to the gov secrecy that can get you harassed or worse killed or just discredited if they feel that is enough. 4 of his coleages in this field died within a year of each other...


as far as i can tell seems legit to me where do you see someone of his background saying he is false or is it just the highschool kids? or others that think they know it all fresh out of colledge...when he has been in this field 60 years
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Well I searched but all I find is him telling his back ground and other vids he made....but the subject is highly classified soo would be hard to establish credible source's backing him up.

one has too see this as a possible reason and plus the fear factor of the gov stopping whistle blowers more in that last 10 years...just ask reporters about their sources drying up. it is not are you a threat to the people but it is are you a threat to the gov secrecy that can get you harassed or worse killed  or just discredited if they feel that is enough. 4 of his coleages in this field died within a year of each other...


as far as i can tell seems legit to me where do you see someone of his background saying he is false or is it just the highschool kids? or others that think they know it all fresh out of colledge...when he has been in this field 60 years


I never said anyone proved him false, only that with an high school education you can tell that some if not most of what he is saying is incorrect. Plus his "background" shouldn't play into this when its only him saying what he has done in the past and can be confirmed by no one. Under that logic i can tell you I'm a CIA operative but have no way to prove it since all my records are locked away and regarded as secret.

As for reason as to what he is saying is false, pick any one of the credible studies on microwaves or even the ionosphere and that should be enough.

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I never said anyone proved him false, only that with an high school education you can tell that some if not most of what he is saying is incorrect. Plus his "background" shouldn't play into this when its only him saying what he has done in the past and can be confirmed by no one. Under that logic i can tell you I'm a CIA operative but have no way to prove it since all my records are locked away and regarded as secret.

As for reason as to what he is saying is false, pick any one of the credible studies on microwaves or even the ionosphere and that should be enough.


done by whom? the studdies you talk of ....the cigarette companies also had lots of studies took us sometime to see the real results from those
you think it would be different with companies that make a profit off microwave devices? keep dreaming

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done by whom? the studdies you talk of ....the cigarette companies also had lots of studies took us sometime to see the real results from those
you think it would be different with companies that make a profit off microwave devices? keep dreaming


Those would be considered unreliable sources, you know the opposite of credible?

Here is a short list of issues i came across while watching the video you posted:
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1. Microwaves don't cause cancer.
-Choosing what cancer your target gets is laughable.
2. Microwaves don't bounce off the Ionosphere. As stated before if this was possible all satellite communication would not work.
3. Reduction of Immune system has been proven cause of exposure to microwaves(not really and issues but one of the few kernels of truth the threw in).
4. I've found no evidence of the the psychological impacts of Microwave exposure he listed. While there are some, most come from the thermal exposure caused by the microwaves vs the microwaves themselves.
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Those would be considered unreliable sources, you know the opposite of credible?

Here is a short list of issues i came across while watching the video you posted:


1. Microwaves don't cause cancer. that can be argued with, by lots of studies i been looking up..clusters of brain tumors by cell phone towers and more

Choosing what cancer your target gets is laughable. different frequencies affects certain area's of the body seems logical to me


3. Reduction of Immune system has been proven cause of exposure to microwaves(not really and issues but one of the few kernels of truth the threw in).

. I've found no evidence of the the psychological impacts of Microwave exposure he listed. While there are some, most come from the thermal exposure caused by the microwaves vs the microwaves themselves. not sure you have a opinion on this as I don't have 1 will leave it at that need technical support when people work under lights 24/7 it affects their mental state so some studies suggest


over all your short list of issues seems weak if you ask me like they used to say about cigs. where do you get your information about cancer and microwaves? have you even looked up clusters of cancer and what some suspect the cause is? Who says it don't cause cancer as a fact? i would like this info and how they reached their conclusions

Studies thus far have not shown a consistent link between cell phone use and cancers of the brain, nerves, or other tissues of the head or neck. More research is needed because cell phone technology and how people use cell phones have been changing rapidly.
or have they suppressed those studies like Barrie Trower suggest they have? and like we seen done in the not soo far past by people who make profits of of things they sell us.

Barrie Trower is not making a profit releasing this info soo what could be his agenda for misleading us?



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Mar 1 2013 03:33pm
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1. Microwaves don't cause cancer. that can be argued with, by lots of studies i been looking up..clusters of brain tumors by cell phone towers and more

Choosing what cancer your target gets is laughable. different frequencies affects certain area's of the body seems logical to me


3. Reduction of Immune system has been proven cause of exposure to microwaves(not really and issues but one of the few kernels of truth the threw in).

. I've found no evidence of the the psychological impacts of Microwave exposure he listed. While there are some, most come from the thermal exposure caused by the microwaves vs the microwaves themselves. not sure you have a opinion on this as I don't have 1 will leave it at that need technical support


As stated before Non-ionizing radiation does not cause DNA damage, which causes cancer btw. The damage from the thermal energy imo would be more dangerous depending on the power used.
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Mar 1 2013 08:01pm
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i am posting facts and like trained lapdogs of the gov. you pro's can just state opinions  to deny the truth.


The American Cancer Society is a trained government lapdog?

Holy shit stop posting in here.
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