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Feb 8 2010 04:52pm
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And yes..Scientists have proven that homosexual people have a gene that heterosexual people do not have.


No they haven't.
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Actually, science is pretty sure that it's because of a burst of hormones in the womb, which means that it's pretty much got a heavy 'Nature' component. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prenatal_hormones_and_sexual_orientation


Wrong because when boys hit puberty testosterone pulses through their system, causing them to develop like a man should and making them more attracted to women (proven).
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Feb 8 2010 06:00pm
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Nature: they're born homosexual
Nurture: their rearing makes them become homosexual.
You decide, use well-known, agreed upon facts to support your argument.
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Choose one or the other, two would contradict.


little of everything i guess.
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Feb 8 2010 11:41pm
Quote (AiNedeSpelCzech @ Feb 7 2010 09:18am)
Actually, science is pretty sure that it's because of a burst of hormones in the womb, which means that it's pretty much got a heavy 'Nature' component.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prenatal_hormones_and_sexual_orientation


Whatever. There are men and there are women. It might happen that something goes wrong in nature and you end up gay or lesbo but you get the point; thats not the way its meant to be.
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Feb 9 2010 01:02am
It's both. Luckily, scientists are developing a pill that will make homos straight.
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Feb 9 2010 01:59am
Nurture

proof: adam and eve not adam and steve.
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Feb 17 2010 07:45am
Quote (Hahkhuearj @ Nov 29 2009 01:36am)
Nature: they're born homosexual
Nurture: their rearing makes them become homosexual.
You decide, use well-known, agreed upon facts to support your argument.
Spam or flaming will be reported immediately.
Choose one or the other, two would contradict.


I choose neither. There are no facts, only arguments and opinions. Gender and Sex are social constructs. How we view gender and sex is all determined by society and culture. It has to do with acceptability, not rearing or being born a certain way. The society as a whole either accepts it or denies it. But in the end it doesn't matter, because denial cannot endure forever. Read your history books. The only reason it is even an argument today is due to religion, but guess what? Even religion will inevitably change. Just like animals, people, planets, and the universe will ultimately sucome to change. Go ask the Ancient Egyptians how their religion is doing and if homosexuality is a moral issue to them. Bring your shovel. In as little as 1,000 years our societies and cultures will be lucky to still be in existence. Much less, arguing over who has a penis or vagina and what they are doing with it.
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Feb 17 2010 09:42am
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Does it really matter? Let say today it was proved it was 100% nature (or nurture for that matter). What difference would it make? What changes do you think should be made based on the findings in my scenario?


If it was proven to be nature than perhaps 'christians' wouldn't be such haters, Bible teaches love not hate yet these imbreds only choose to follow parts that suit them.

I'm gay I've liked boys since I was about 5 and fooled around with next door neighbour and stuff when I was that young. Imo it is from birth whether that is genetic or not I don't know. I still dated girls up till I was 14 'cos thats what was expected but whenever they tried to kiss me or anything like that I would get them to dump me and move on the next girl. I think I fooled around with around 5-6 boys from ages 5-13 as I was growing up, also crushed on best friend. At 15 I came out and as I expected no-one at my school or home really cared, because it is accepted by most people and only trash still have problems with it.

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"The hottest girls are the ones whose faces nearly obey the Golden Ratio but skew slightly masculine in some measures of sexual dimorphism.

As House M.D. once put it, "The ultimate female, is a man."


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Feb 17 2010 10:14am
didnt all the greeks used to be homo too? nothing new in this day and age... been homos around forever.
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Feb 17 2010 11:04am
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Wrong because when boys hit puberty testosterone pulses through their system, causing them to develop like a man should and making them more attracted to women (proven).


I think you need to look up what an organizational effect of hormones is. (Proven)

There are critical periods for everything. The window for sexual orientation is before you are born. There is nothing that can change that. (Proven)
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