I suggest you read "The Ancestor's Tale" before you claim evolution is utter nonsense.

Beginning from humans traveling backwards toward the most simplistic example of life; single cell organisms.
Before you discredit, examine both sides.

What an amazing book it is so far, I am a couple hundred pages in

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You are such a stupid cunt, i hate you

This post was edited by lithfkn on May 21 2009 09:54pm

This made me genuinely LOL, something which is a rare occurrence around here. Well done, sir.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/nab/what-happened-to-the-dinosaurs

I cannot honestly beleive that people buy into this shit....


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"If we accept God’s Word, beginning with Genesis, as being true and authoritative, then we can explain dinosaurs and make sense of the evidence we observe in the world around us. In doing this, we are helping people see that Genesis is absolutely trustworthy and logically defensible, and is what it claims to be—the true account of the history of the universe and mankind. And what one believes concerning the book of Genesis will ultimately determine what one believes about the rest of the Bible. This, in turn, will affect how a person views himself or herself, fellow human beings, and what life is all about, including their need for salvation"

Lol what a crock of bullshit.

This post was edited by lithfkn on May 21 2009 11:02pm

It's not so much bullshit as doing the scientific method backwards. It's taking the conclusion they want from the Bible, and looking for any sort of information or misinformation to support it.

Creationists are silly. This is the one spot where science will crush religious belief every time.

Internet website credibility removal. Made me lol though:



This post was edited by Sioux on May 21 2009 11:23pm

What do you think this proves exactly and why do you feel this way exactly again?

A puzzle piece means nothing if it doesn't fit, within other pieces that have been objectively cut from the same picture.

Just because it is "Old" doesn't make it true, in fact it gives it more reason to be discarded in the intellectual schema of Western Civilization since it is only America that has difficulty synthesizing Evolution with the Origins of man, you honestly probably didn't even bother to read that huge post about how most Americans who are asked about Evolution don't even know a damn thing relating towards the fact that evolution DISPROVES the Bible, in every sense.

My point here is Spel honestly, is that if Science is true, religion is False. DO you understand that sort of reasoning, because if Science is true and Religion is true, then what is the point of science? TO agree with religion? That is a crock of horse shit.

You can't even use Religion to prove religion Spel, that is ILLOGICAL. How can I express this any further to you without you misinterpreting my intentions as getting upset? Because you are still dancing around your ideas like some egg head without realizing that you are using your very same premise to justify your conclusion.

You're just stating, if this religion is Old, and is True, then therefore the Idea of Science that is younger than that religion must be compatible with it, since the religion is much older than science. That is bullshit. (If my interpretation is Wrong correct me) I've also gathered that you believe that since they COEXIST peacefully it is somehow true that they are compatible, that is again Illogical. Tumors are pretty peaceful, and coexist just fine with your skin cells, so should we just leave Tumors on patients now because they Coexist peacefully?

Get your hippie hat out!




Just because its honestly Ignorant and misguided doesn't mean you should follow it. This is prime example that you can take whatever you want from whatever source and sew whatever you want to warm your bosom of intellectuality as best as you can.

Sioux pointed out that there are "cross overs" not actual ideas which are one and the same. Science and religion are fundamentally different Spel, you must understand this. Do not try to prove science with religion, I still believe that you haven't grasped hat concept yet, and you believe that in some overarching sense some day somewhere somehow a scientist will "prove" God. (I mean this as a SUBCONCIOUS manifestation of your ideas, because they converge ontoward the notion of a supernatural God) Hello spel, is there anyone guiding your intuition?

That is absolutely ridiculous, you can't prove anything that is related to God, because every attempt to prove God has yielded jabbering Idiots like you who will make mountains of majesty out of molehills of Moronic claims.

Once again, you cannot prove religion with religion. PERIOD. That is why, I have said that I believe that you think that somehow religion will prove itself, which is absurd. The only way religion can be proven is with Science, and lately Science has been far more on-point that Religion about the origins of man, matter and energy.

Good day.



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This is the puzzle piece that completely has broken the rules about Evolution. This fossil suggests that humans and great apes at a certain point in natural history were a common ancestor. Then some event caused this animal to split off into two species which caused Humans and Great Apes.

Honestly this fossil proves that Humans haven't been around for that long, and more so that we are evolutionarily pretty lucky for getting such huge and Arrogant brains

Where is your evidence to explain the Origins of man?

This post was edited by Jazz_Thing on May 22 2009 02:19am

I know where you are going so here is a nice Scripture.

Genesis 2:7 (King James Version) And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Problem is the Bible seems to premise there were people before Adam and Eve and does not give detail to what formed means.

It neither disposed the idea that forces perceived by Science were not in fact put in to place by God.

If you wish to try to teach me something, impress upon me and change my thinking upon the following...

#1 I've seen lectures by as I recall at least one (atheist as I recall, just because it I feel it may help you understand my thinking" P.H.D. that showed wonderfully, how many of the basics of evolution were fabricated and how many of the statutes such as "Once something has evolved it can never become what it once was" has been shown false in studies.

#2 If you are a "Creation Scientist" show me were in a book such as Genesis (A History book by nature, that is meant to show God's relationship with man in the beginning, at it's heart and not particularly Science at all.) you can start such an idea there.

As for you Jazz, please realize there is a difference between creationism and creation Science.

The first can be used as the thought God initiated all that is and does not impose a Scientific reason why, The second bases their Scientific reasoning upon it.

If you haven't concluded my position, neither side has enough respectable evidence for me to conclude either to be a "Scientific" ideology nor if either was correct does it seem to make the other mutually exclusive.

Pm me if anyone says something cool and I miss it.

I lol'ed at the part about "Creation Science"

Do you know that saying the word Creation implies that something Created the creation in every sense? THAT IS RELIGION, not Science!

To 1:

1. Evolution is proved very simply observe this snake tail:



Notice the claw at the end of the tail, this implies that at some point in time there was an organism that was a common ancestor to the modern day snake. The common ancestor had to have had claws, and was probably a four legged reptile of some sort. We just need to find the fossil of that animal that was the common ancestor.

That is what Ida is.

2.

Observe this diagnostic manual. This book explains the origin of all thoughts that are maladaptive, abnormal, destructive or neurotic. This book is far more concise in describing the mechanism of mans brain, intentions and MORALITY. Than the Bible will ever be.

The DSM-IV-TR is literally the apex of psychology, the shining star of Scientific inquiry into the human mind while malfunctioning. This book, literally describes the faulty mechanisms of the mind.

This post was edited by Jazz_Thing on May 22 2009 02:53am