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Jan 17 2017 06:47pm
Quote (card_sultan @ Jan 17 2017 06:30pm)
Not believing in "A" photo is completely reasonable when there are so many other photos that show otherwise. Having blind faith in "A" photo is actual proof of something when logically the ball Earth/Heliocentric belief is so full of holes, it's actually the conventional prejudice that Einstein was referring to, even in his time - ball earth was accepted as "Science" when its really just propaganda mixed with dogma and force feed into people. And the person Einstein was referring to was Nikola Tesla, the actual Genius much smarter than Einstein.

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We went down many paths, and you refused to follow all of them to their logical conclusions. This is more than just a photograph. Airline flight routes, nautical navigation, mathematical proofs, satellites, infinite light visibility, lasers, radar, eclipses, constellations, altitudes, perpetual motion, acceleration, friction, relativity, and wind resistance just for starters. All of these are used to prove the Earth is a ball, and you run the fuck away or intentionally misrepresent every response you're faced with. You're intellectually dishonest, therefore you will be ridiculed for the idiot that you are.
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Jan 17 2017 08:02pm
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We went down many paths, and you refused to follow all of them to their logical conclusions. This is more than just a photograph. Airline flight routes, nautical navigation, mathematical proofs, satellites, infinite light visibility, lasers, radar, eclipses, constellations, altitudes, perpetual motion, acceleration, friction, relativity, and wind resistance just for starters. All of these are used to prove the Earth is a ball, and you run the fuck away or intentionally misrepresent every response you're faced with. You're intellectually dishonest, therefore you will be ridiculed for the idiot that you are.


Every single one of those proofs for you, when you actually understand the smallest details - is also a proof that the Flat Earth is true - that you refuse to educate yourself is proof that you are but an automaton of a poorly schooled public education system and treat other as you were taught - with derisive anger and social contempt which undoubtedly helped you in forming your conventional prejudice. I have no doubt you were kicked out of school, its quite obvious.

Lets look at those points:

Airline Flight and Nautical Navigation: Why couldn't they find flight mh 370 - I thought you were sure there are thousands of satellites that track airplanes and every part of the world is mapped properly?
Mathematical proofs - They are none, math doesn't prove things and can just as easily mislead you.
Satellites: Where are the photos of them in space - why are they all drawings? Why is there Logs that show they were all launched with balloons from various Nasa sites around the world? Why would they launch a satellite with a balloon?
Infinite Light visibility - is that proved or just assumed?
Lasers and radar - actually you can use laser targeting to prove their is no curve to earth. I assume your talking about the Laser moon test - so prove you can actually shot a Laser 238, 000 miles and refer it off a surface and have it come back 238,000 miles and set off a light - or maybe that light just goes off after 5 seconds - funny how programming works. I'm not familiar with the radar proof so if you wanna discuss that go for it.
Eclipse: dont proof the Earth a ball because of Senenelion eclipses. Astro science tells use that the light from the sun is refracted by the atmosphere - which might be true - but then we are suppose to believe the shadow is refracted inversely as well?
and if refraction is the answer - why doesn't refraction affect all the other eclipses.
Constellations: Don't prove ball Earth because they haven't changed in thousand of years and you can actually get a nikon p900 camera and see a star close up and see its not what Astro science tells you
Altitudes:- Um what - how would that prove a ball earth - WTF are you taking about? You can actually look up a video called the mountains prove the flat Earth but you might not understand it or will just flat out refuse to watch it.
Acceleration: In fact no one has every been able to measure the supposed movement of the Earth even though it supposedly blazing though space at comprehensible speeds
Relativity: Probably the most misunderstood thing is science, it does not prove Ball earth, just that Newton was wrong and our best experiment of it shows everything falling into the sun. Silly heliotards, so desperate to find proof of their foolish chicanery and ridiculous circle jerk logical fallacies. If the Earth isn't moving and you fly a hot balloon in the air - have you match the earth orbit velocity - relativity speaking?
Wind Resistance: - Why are you talking about the air being heated though the sun and the rising and falling of barometric pressure that causes the 10-40 mph winds? Why would that prove the ball Earth? I betcha you have an answer ill find very funny, please share your awesome observations and insight plz.
"Friction:" - /facepalm
Perpetual motion: - while the Earth's motion has never been shown to exist - the Aether and the motion of the stars has - I suggest you look up Airy's Failure experiment (named so because he failed to prove the Earths rotation but did prove that the stars circled around a motionlessness Earth) and the Michelson-Morley experiment or continue with your automatonic indoctrinated, ignorant and idiotic juvenile rage of refusing to accept the facts that all your proofs are entirely flawed.

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Jan 18 2017 05:49pm
Quote (tard_sultan @ Jan 17 2017 08:02pm)
Every single one of those proofs for you, when you actually understand the smallest details - is also a proof that the Flat Earth is true - that you refuse to educate yourself is proof that you are but an automaton of a poorly schooled public education system and treat other as you were taught - with derisive anger and social contempt which undoubtedly helped you in forming your conventional prejudice. I have no doubt you were kicked out of school, its quite obvious.

Lets look at those points:

Airline Flight and Nautical Navigation: Why couldn't they find flight mh 370 - I thought you were sure there are thousands of satellites that track airplanes and every part of the world is mapped properly?
Mathematical proofs- They are none, math doesn't prove things and can just as easily mislead you.
Satellites: Where are the photos of them in space - why are they all drawings? Why is there Logs that show they were all launched with balloons from various Nasa sites around the world? Why would they launch a satellite with a balloon?
Infinite Light visibility - is that proved or just assumed?
Lasers and radar - actually you can use laser targeting to prove their is no curve to earth. I assume your talking about the Laser moon test - so prove you can actually shot a Laser 238, 000 miles and refer it off a surface and have it come back 238,000 miles and set off a light - or maybe that light just goes off after 5 seconds - funny how programming works. I'm not familiar with the radar proof so if you wanna discuss that go for it.
Eclipse: dont proof the Earth a ball because of Senenelion eclipses. Astro science tells use that the light from the sun is refracted by the atmosphere - which might be true - but then we are suppose to believe the shadow is refracted inversely as well?
and if refraction is the answer - why doesn't refraction affect all the other eclipses.
Constellations: Don't prove ball Earth because they haven't changed in thousand of years and you can actually get a nikon p900 camera and see a star close up and see its not what Astro science tells you
Altitudes:- Um what - how would that prove a ball earth - WTF are you taking about? You can actually look up a video called the mountains prove the flat Earth but you might not understand it or will just flat out refuse to watch it.
Acceleration: In fact no one has every been able to measure the supposed movement of the Earth even though it supposedly blazing though space at comprehensible speeds
Relativity: Probably the most misunderstood thing is science, it does not prove Ball earth, just that Newton was wrong and our best experiment of it shows everything falling into the sun. Silly heliotards, so desperate to find proof of their foolish chicanery and ridiculous circle jerk logical fallacies. If the Earth isn't moving and you fly a hot balloon in the air - have you match the earth orbit velocity - relativity speaking?
Wind Resistance: - Why are you talking about the air being heated though the sun and the rising and falling of barometric pressure that causes the 10-40 mph winds? Why would that prove the ball Earth? I betcha you have an answer ill find very funny, please share your awesome observations and insight plz.
"Friction:" - /facepalm
Perpetual motion: - while the Earth's motion has never been shown to exist - the Aether and the motion of the stars has - I suggest you look up Airy's Failure experiment (named so because he failed to prove the Earths rotation but did prove that the stars circled around a motionlessness Earth) and the Michelson-Morley experiment or continue with your automatonic indoctrinated, ignorant and idiotic juvenile rage of refusing to accept the facts that all your proofs are entirely flawed.


Because the transponder was turned off, duh. Not being able to find a missing plane over the ocean doesn't disprove a ball Earth. Way to completely disregard all the rest of the industries though, which have to navigate thousands of ships and aircraft every day over vast swaths of the world.

The trigonometry of measured angles and lengths of the sun's light/shadows says differently.

Drawings? What in the actual fuck?



Virtually all satellites are launched via rocket, not balloons.

The vacuum of space does not hinder the travel of light like passing through an atmosphere or water does, so yes, it goes on forever.

You can use lasers to prove the curvature by making observations from various altitudes and distances. What do you mean "prove I can get a laser reflection off the moon?" There are retroreflectors on the moon. Planetariums and observatories worldwide can target those retroreflectors and use precise timing on the return beam to measure the distance to the moon, knowing that the laser travels at light speed. It's all open source. NASA can't control who has access to the observatories. Google "lunar laser ranging experiment."

Radar astronomy can be used to make stellar and interstellar measurements. Knowing the motion of the planets, moons, asteroids and stars are important in understanding the universe. And people who understand the universe know that at certain times of the day/year, certain stellar observations are possible and others aren't, and they're predicated on those observations being made from the face of ball Earth.

Ordinary eclipses prove ball Earth, and Selenelion eclipses are explained by actually understanding what you're seeing. From the wiki: There are typically a number of high ridges undergoing sunrise or sunset that can see it. Although the moon is in the Earth’s umbra, the Sun and the eclipsed Moon can both be seen at the same time because the refraction of light through the Earth’s atmosphere causes each of them to appear higher in the sky than their true geometric position. Refraction always affects light passing through the atmosphere. The only question is to what degree.

Some constellations/stars are only EVER visible from the southern or northern hemispheres. Polaris is never visible from the lower latitudes. The Southern Cross is never visible from the upper latitudes. Good luck explaining that on a flat Earth.

Increasing distances are visible from higher altitudes, duh. You can see 4 states on a clear day from the observation deck of the Willis (Sears) Tower. The horizon is much closer the lower you are. Which all makes perfect sense on a ball Earth, and where you have to make up special exceptions to the rules of physics on a flat Earth.

We only have acceleration because of gravity keeping us in orbit around the sun. That acceleration doesn't mean we're "speeding up," it means we're constantly changing directions, which is what happens when you travel along an elliptical path. To keep our little feet in contact with the soil on a flat Earth with no gravity, we would have to be accelerating "upwards" constantly, getting actually faster all the time. Where are these supposed Earth thrusters that give us the effect of gravity in your moronic model?

I'm not even getting into motion relative to other objects with you, you've proven time and again you have no idea what is being explained to you. Wind resistance and friction both go towards the same topic. You don't get it. It's not worth the time.

Yes the Earth's motion is known to exist. What the fuck kind of fantasy bullshit are you on?

In short, you're a fucking idiot.

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Jan 18 2017 06:53pm
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Virtually all satellites are launched via rocket, not balloons.


I'll get to all your points but this one is classic dumbfukkery on your part and to easy





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Project Echo - where NASA learned you dont need rockets to launch Satellites, just you think that because of massive propaganda :rofl:



Quote (Santara @ Jan 18 2017 01:49pm)
The vacuum of space does not hinder the travel of light like passing through an atmosphere or water does, so yes, it goes on forever.


How do you know space is a vacuum - because you where told that?
Nature doesn't make vacuums and a vacuum cannot exist right next to a pocket of air aka the atmosphere and all tests prove a vacuum more powerful than so called gravity, so the great "vacuum" of space should suck up our atmosphere, in short the idea that space is a vacuum or near vacuum is highly unlikely.

Again the idea that light travels forever in a vacuum is another assumption, there is no proof for that - its just Science telling you what to think, think for yourself.


Quote (Santara @ Jan 18 2017 01:49pm)
Because the transponder was turned off, duh. Not being able to find a missing plane over the ocean doesn't disprove a ball Earth. Way to completely disregard all the rest of the industries though, which have to navigate thousands of ships and aircraft every day over vast swaths of the world.


So your saying an airplane location is dependent on a signal inside the airplane, hmm interesting.

But i thought the're were thousands of satellites, guess they were all busy doing other stuff, photographing the Earth i guess is outside there range of capabilities i guess.



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I'll get to all your points but this one is classic dumbfukkery on your part and to easy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfsBpwy2DhA


Hey stupid. "Virtually all" is not "all."

Quote (tard_sultan @ Jan 18 2017 06:56pm)
So your saying an airplane location is dependent on a signal inside the airplane, hmm interesting.

But i thought the're were thousands of satellites, guess they were all busy doing other stuff, photographing the Earth i guess is outside there range of capabilities i guess.


So, you're saying that GPS can still track your location after you turn off your phone? Hmm, interesting.

God you're retarded.

Quote (tard_sultan @ Jan 18 2017 06:56pm)
How do you know space is a vacuum - because you where told that?
Nature doesn't make vacuums and a vacuum cannot exist right next to a pocket of air aka the atmosphere and all tests prove a vacuum more powerful than so called gravity, so the great "vacuum" of space should suck up our atmosphere, in short the idea that space is a vacuum or near vacuum is highly unlikely.

Again the idea that light travels forever in a vacuum is another assumption, there is no proof for that - its just Science telling you what to think, think for yourself.


I was "told" that by people who have been there. I've also been "told" by people who actually understand the physical composition of the universe. People with doctorate degrees in any number of areas, all of whom know what they're talking about, unlike tinfoil hat retards licking the glass while watching spoonfed driven from youtube clownshoes.
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Quote (Santara @ Jan 18 2017 01:49pm)
The trigonometry of measured angles and lengths of the sun's light/shadows says differently.


The trigonometry of what? Do you even know what your talking about - cause that's only half a point but it goes along with your half assed modis operandi.

I assume your talking about Eratosthenes and his assumption that the sun was far far away and it would account for light in cities 800 km apart providing different shadow lengths and of course sun light rays are completely parallel

But of course anyone can see that the light rays from the Sun are not completely parallel, you'd have to be blind not to notice it. They are in fact diverging, and outwardly propagating, we call them Crepuscular rays.





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Obviously the picture of the Earth is not a drawing, but I was referring to Satellites and the ISS is not a satellite, The picture is obviously a high altitude plane manipulated with a computer to warp the horizon and then photoshop the ISS in.

If the clouds are only 5 miles high, does the distance between the clouds and the iss look like 330 miles, and why is they 2 points of focus in one "picture" and who actually photographed that - wtf you think an Astronot just flew up there and snapped a photo? Good grief.


And btw , you can see the sun rays are Crepuscular - even before they hit the atmosphere, god damn science. :mad:
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Quote (Santara @ Jan 18 2017 04:03pm)
Hey stupid. "Virtually all" is not "all."



So, you're saying that GPS can still track your location after you turn off your phone? Hmm, interesting.

God you're retarded.



I was "told" that by people who have been there. I've also been "told" by people who actually understand the physical composition of the universe. People with doctorate degrees in any number of areas, all of whom know what they're talking about, unlike tinfoil hat retards licking the glass while watching spoonfed driven from youtube clownshoes.


Hey dummy - why would they launch any satellites at all on balloons - and actually you can find the logs from NASA that show all these satellites were launched on balloons. Why is there not footage of a satelite being launching in space on a rocket - because it doesn't happen and only in your mind?

Holy shit your stupid - you cant tell the difference between a person and an airplane , no wonder your so eternally confused and blind.

You were told were you - by people , sounds great.

I was told by my friend that when he went fishing up North he caught a 6 footer, usually mentally challenged people like you believe him too.

Why did Neil Armstrong call Nass astronauts a bunch of parrots who cant fly and say that more discoveries await for those that can remove truths protective layer?

Why do some need protection from the truth, dont you already know it? Listen to the parrots all you want.



Why when Werner Von Braun died, his gravestone only said one thing- psalm 19 - which says the firmament proves god handiwork?



http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Psalms-Chapter-19/




Quote (Santara @ Jan 18 2017 01:49pm)
Yes the Earth's motion is known to exist. What the fuck kind of fantasy bullshit are you on?


So your saying you think that because you were told or can you name the experiment that proved the motion of the Earth? <------Crickets.....

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Quote (card_sultan @ Jan 18 2017 05:56pm)
Project Echo - where NASA learned you dont need rockets to launch Satellites, just you think that because of massive propaganda :rofl:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-vUkZHnjGI


30 seconds into the video
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The latter is mounted in the nose of a 3 stage 92 foot Thor-Delta rocket.


Yes, NASA learned you don't need rockets. Which is why they sent it using a rocket. :rofl:
Oh Card, your poor tiny brain is so preciously hilarious.
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30 seconds into the video


Yes, NASA learned you don't need rockets. Which is why they sent it using a rocket. :rofl:
Oh Card, your poor tiny brain is so preciously hilarious.


So what did they Launch with a rocket - an inflatable balloon! - why did they need a balloon if there is only "micro gravity", why do you they just use balloons now? Why is there no more Nasa rocket launches?

How does a balloon operate in a near vacuum? Why arent people going to space yet? Space x promised to build a Disneyland for Space travel - remember they were selling tickets for 100k - hmm wonder what ever happened to that?

Way to take a few words out of context and only hear the few words to confirm your bias. :rofl:

I'm amazed every time you post, how do you manage to get through life being so challenged?



Hahahahaa - just noticed youtube closed the account of that Neil Armstrong interview - Someone cant handle the truth. Damn cowards.

Lets see if they close Joe Rogans account



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