Quote (Neptunus @ Jul 29 2015 08:19pm)

I don't see why can't we create AI capable of sentience, given enough time considering we evolved spontaneously. Of course there's the problem of knowing whether an AI has a subjective experience or not, but at least it could imitate an entity that has it.

Quote (Caufield @ Jul 29 2015 08:49pm)

I kinda agree with both of you if it's possible...
Given enough time we'll achieve an understanding of ourselves and our "functions" like the ones cited by diablokgb such as love hate etc and then like Neptunus said we can build an AI inspired by that knowledge with biomolecules and inorganic compounds, why not?.

It's not even close to it, but John craig venter made something like he wrote a genome with all and only the necessary genes to a bacterium to live on independently that he transfected to a bacterium (which was emptied of all genomic information before) (I put the link below for those who might want to look this up or do further researchs)
And a cell is supposed to be way easier to understand than a multicellular being.

So to come back to the topic, I think that since we can't make an artificial cell, by the time we can gather all the knowledge to make a real AI as we can see in the most futuristic movies we'll all (and I mean humanity, not just you and me) be dead already or something
But we already have some AI, and in 50 years we'll have improved that, but it won't be as "perfect" as we are, so like diablokgb I think it's impossible but time being the problem, not that it's just too hard.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mycoplasma_laboratorium

Quote (Diablokgb @ Jul 30 2015 03:53am)

What Neptune was referring to as in biomolecules was....us, humans....

Quote (Caufield @ Jul 30 2015 08:30am)

Well ye I don't believe that we were things created by another being even if that could make a good movie :wacko:
But I don't see why if we reach a point where we perfectly know how we "work" we couldn't copy our style to make A.I. But at some point if we want something really similar to us then we just have to reproduce naturally instead of feeling almighty and creating something new... Optimizing us would be way easier than creating something new from A to Z imo

E/ but i think it's illegal to work on modifying human beings' genome or cloning humans, at least in Europe/Japan/USA, section C about research on human genome of the link I give

http://portal.unesco.org/en/ev.php-URL_ID=13177&URL_DO=DO_TOPIC&URL_SECTION=201.html

Quote (Diablokgb @ Jul 30 2015 07:34pm)

Thing is, the most mysterious thing in the entire universe is the human brain. We have to first completely understand all aspects of what makes us us. It would be foolish for us to try to create something like us if we have yet to understand fully what us is. Just saying.