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Nov 7 2014 12:40pm
Quote (Loops @ Nov 7 2014 01:29pm)
Destroys brain cells? Care to show them to me?


damages & impairs*

just google dude, it's not difficult to find research leading to this.

and of course you will find research saying the opposite, written by people who use marijuana.
better yet - search "marijuana destroyed my life" - "Help i can't stop smoking pot"

then google "smoking marijuana made my life amazing" - "Pot is so easy to quit"


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damages & impairs*

just google dude, it's not difficult to find research leading to this.

and of course you will find research saying the opposite, written by people who use marijuana.


Seems like since you got your lung collapse you got scared and got brainwashed by the doctors that marijuana is as dangerous as crack or you did it by yourself
And a lot of studies against marijuana have a certain bias too...

And btw I recently stopped smoking marijuana because I wanted to take a break and it wasn't hard AT ALL.

Cannabinoids promote embryonic and adult hippocampus neurogenesis and produce anxiolytic- and antidepressant-like effects
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1253627/

Heavy Marijuana Use Doesn't Damage Brain
http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/news/20030701/heavy-marijuana-use-doesnt-damage-brain

Cannabinoid Receptor Agonists Protect Cultured Rat Hippocampal Neurons from Excitotoxicity
http://molpharm.aspetjournals.org/content/54/3/459.full

Study Finds No Cancer-Marijuana Connection
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/25/AR2006052501729.html

Go to antitumor activity
http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/cannabis/patient/page2

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Seems like since you got your lung collapse you got scared and got brainwashed by the doctors that marijuana is as dangerous as crack or you did it by yourself
And a lot of studies against marijuana have a certain bias too...

And btw I recently stopped smoking marijuana because I wanted to take a break and it wasn't hard AT ALL.

Cannabinoids promote embryonic and adult hippocampus neurogenesis and produce anxiolytic- and antidepressant-like effects
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1253627/

Heavy Marijuana Use Doesn't Damage Brain
http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/news/20030701/heavy-marijuana-use-doesnt-damage-brain

Cannabinoid Receptor Agonists Protect Cultured Rat Hippocampal Neurons from Excitotoxicity
http://molpharm.aspetjournals.org/content/54/3/459.full

Study Finds No Cancer-Marijuana Connection
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/25/AR2006052501729.html

Go to antitumor activity
http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/cannabis/patient/page2



I think medical professionals on both sides of the fence are to be duly respected. As far as his lung collapse if the doctor thinks it caused it who is to say we know better. I mean what comes to mind is your lung probably got strained during boot camp or mile runs it happens alot to athletes and usually I think its a means to an end it heals and was just the way the lung was. what can go wrong will go wrong.

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I think medical professionals on both sides of the fence are to be duly respected. As far as his lung collapse if the doctor thinks it caused it who is to say we know better. I mean what comes to mind is your lung probably got strained during boot camp or mile runs it happens alot to athletes and usually I think its a means to an end it heals and was just the way the lung was what can go wrong will go wrong.


I'm not saying it wasn't caused by marijuana, I'm saying that since this happened he got on a scare and believed everything fed to him against marijuana.

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I'm not saying it wasn't caused by marijuana, I'm saying that since this happened he got on a scare and believed everything fed to him against marijuana.



He gave other good reasons that were personal. You could be right but this is also a personal experience thread. I think he should answer this question.
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He gave other good reasons that were personal. You could be right but this is also a personal experience thread. I think he should answer this question.


Might not be true but sure seems like it.

I google'd 'marijuana kills brain cells' and most i got was studies saying the opposite and anti drug website saying weed is the devil plant

I think the studies I posted so far are reliable information. And there is so much more, I got 150 pages of studies about marijuana, wether it's about it's properties against all diseases or addiction or anything.

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Cannabinoids promote embryonic and adult hippocampus neurogenesis and produce anxiolytic- and antidepressant-like effects
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1253627/

Heavy Marijuana Use Doesn't Damage Brain
http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/news/20030701/heavy-marijuana-use-doesnt-damage-brain

Cannabinoid Receptor Agonists Protect Cultured Rat Hippocampal Neurons from Excitotoxicity
http://molpharm.aspetjournals.org/content/54/3/459.full

Study Finds No Cancer-Marijuana Connection
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/25/AR2006052501729.html

Go to antitumor activity
http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/cannabis/patient/page2
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I'm not saying it wasn't caused by marijuana, I'm saying that since this happened he got on a scare and believed everything fed to him against marijuana.


it had nothing to do with my feelings towards marijuana. I kept using for an additional year after the event actually.
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it had nothing to do with my feelings towards marijuana. I kept using for an additional year after the event actually.


Ok. I know marijuana isn't the perfect plant, and has risks, but I accept them like anyone does when they smoke tobacco or when they drink alcohol.

And while it has its risks, there's also a lot of good. Lots of studies shown that THC inhibit cancer cell growth, people use it to stop have 200x seizures everyday and so much more.



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loops -- What type of marijuana were these studies using? The old-school plant? Or was it using the new-age hydro-blow your mind northern lights which has 500+ new chemicals associated with it?

Why do youuse it?
Do you have cancer?
Do you have seizures?

These studies show THChelping, not the hundreds of other chemicals in marijuana.

THC - pills http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/259482.php

I'm not saying it's not a good drug to help the pain or prolong the increase of cancer in people who have cancer

you seem to be dodging the fact that i said:


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While there has been no direct link from marijuana to lung cancer - meaning, you could find studies that DO link it to lung cancer and studies that DO NOT  link it... it certainly causes and has been linked to other major issues with the body including Bullous Lung Disease and Testicular Cancer.


Testicular Cancer -
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/cncr.24159/full
http://www.cancer.org/cancer/news/study-links-marijuana-use-to-testicular-cancer
http://www.medpagetoday.com/HematologyOncology/OtherCancers/12802  -- The study was supported by the NIH and the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center


Bullous Lung Disease
http://www.medscape.org/viewarticle/747982_4
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1360494/
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080123104017.htm -- study finds that the development of bullous lung disease occurs in marijuana smokers approximately 20 years earlier than tobacco smokers.


http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a129/mikeglaser/potuse_zps233622e5.png


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loops -- What type of marijuana were these studies using? The old-school plant? Or was it using the new-age hydro-blow your mind northern lights which has 500+ new chemicals associated with it?

you seem to be dodging the fact that i said:


And you seem to be dodging to show me the ''hundreds of studies saying that marijuana kills brain cells''.


Marijuana today is just more potent because they cross it with other varieties of marijuana, nothing to do with chemicals added.

I know marijuana can cause some respiratory problems like a collapsed lung. However the testicular cancer thing idk, might be true my mind is open.
Alcohol can lead to some cancers and it's still legal?

I do not have cancer or anything like that, I use it recreationally. I was just saying it can be used for other things as well


AND why would YOU care if people used it recreationally?

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