studies show that a specific sequence of 32 letters can self replicate under the conditions that they exposed to a strain of 15 specific letters and 17 specific letters. where the strain of 32 splits into a strain of 17 and 15 and joins with the 2 other 15 and 17 letter strains accordingly to creater 2 32 letter long amino acid chains. this process by chanche would have then had to have occured over and over untill the strains evolved to the point where they could arrange/ and capture specific amino acids in order to facilitate replication on their own with out chance. then over billions of years it eventually evolved into all life on the planet, including the 3.5 billion letter genome that make up humans.

This post was edited by Ylem122 on Dec 20 2012 11:06pm

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Where did those original amino acids come from? Stardust?

There has to be a God that "Always Existed", we are fact of it because we exist. We had to have come from something, you fail to realize this simple concept brother.

This post was edited by HighschoolTurd on Dec 21 2012 01:21am

heres a good artivle explaining how the molecule formamide, the simplest structure containing the required four building blocks of life -- carbon, hydrogen, oxygen and nitrogen. can create guanine at 130 C in the presence of ultra violete light.

http://news.discovery.com/earth/life-rna-ultraviolet-light.html

it also talks about how previous experiments were able to create adenine, cytosine and uracil the other 3, but not guanine.


"Previous studies have already shown how heating formamide in a mineral stew creates most of the ingredients for ribonucleic acid, commonly known as RNA. RNA is thought to have served as an early operating system for life, later joined by the more robust deoxyribonucleic acid, or DNA, genetic coder.

Missing from the formamide brew, however, has been guanine, one of RNA's four critical ingredients. (The others are adenine, cytosine and uracil.) One lightning rod for guanine's creation, scientists discovered, is ultraviolet light."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MillerUrey_experiment

you can find more information about the origional experiements done with out ultraviolet light at the above link, called the Miller Urey Experiment

"After Miller's death in 2007, scientists examining sealed vials preserved from the original experiments were able to show that there were actually well over 20 different amino acids produced in Miller's original experiments. That is considerably more than what Miller originally reported, and more than the 20 that naturally occur in life.[7] Moreover, some evidence suggests that Earth's original atmosphere might have had a different composition from the gas used in the Miller–Urey experiment. There is abundant evidence of major volcanic eruptions 4 billion years ago, which would have released carbon dioxide (CO2), nitrogen (N2), hydrogen sulfide (H2S), and sulfur dioxide (SO2) into the atmosphere. Experiments using these gases in addition to the ones in the original Miller–Urey experiment have produced more diverse molecules"



if your question is more to the point of how does something come from nothing, its like if you go out to your yard and dig a hole, at one point you had nothing but now you have a hole and a pile of dirt very similar the idea of space, and matter. you could also look into zero point energy or vaccume energy and virtural particles for more information on how we can see in our everyday life atoms defying the law of conservation of matter in a sense.


though in such an event that your bias blinds you to the fact that if something cant come from nothing neither could have god, it likely dosnt matter what i say, your going to belive what ever you want.

This post was edited by Ylem122 on Dec 21 2012 01:44am

I don't care how bad u try to explain to me bro, I appreciate u trying, but it all boils down to where the FIRST ATOM came from? Something always of had to exist......... (Eternal Deity, God) outside of the time dimension, he does not need to be created, it makes perfect sense. Our human brains have a limit on imagination and science, believe it or not, stop wasting your time.

Im not saying God is a science stopper, sure continue to study, but you will never find evidence to "Disprove" God, but all evidence does point to an intelligent designer.

A human being with 2 eyes is just one way of creation, imagine the possibilities a God could have made us look...

This post was edited by HighschoolTurd on Dec 21 2012 02:51am

0=2+-2

nothing becomes something.

-2+2=0

something becomes nothing.

now along with this where the negative energy cancels out the positive energy theres the possibility where the negative energy is greater thent he positive -3+1= -2 and thers the possibility where the positive energy is greater then the negative 3+-1=2. now these two possibilities would reuire a something whether it be a negative something or paositive something, so if either of these 2 possibilities were found true it would be very likely that there was something in the beginning.

but there is still the third possibility that -2+2=0 where something can come from nothing.

now all three of these are possibilities, and no one knows which of these are correct, but the idea that something can come from nothing is a very very very real possibility.

This post was edited by Ylem122 on Dec 21 2012 03:24am

Rofl, you serious right now? Where did u get 2, or 0 in the first place?

0 = nothing

2 = matter

-2 = space

nothing = space + matter

Oh well the boundaries have been pushed back much further than the first atoms, the process responsible for the creation of the first atoms is called 'reheating'.

dude, god through Christianity has been disproven sooo many times.

Virgin babies and sunlight before there was sun. seems legit.

This post was edited by OrionGG on Dec 21 2012 06:31am

I would love for you to disprove the existence of an intelligent designer, you're also the same guy who thinks a missile struct the pentagon, you really have no room to talk.

Even famous scientist's like dawkins and krausse say that they cannot disprove a designer/God. So please stop playing semantics with me, I unfortunately don't got time for trolls.


Heck, even dawkins thinks that there could be an intelligent designer elsewhere.. lmao

This post was edited by HighschoolTurd on Dec 21 2012 06:35am