.... Prove it. Why wouldn't they wouldn't believe in a Islamic God? or a Hindu God? or a Sikh God? Why wouldn't they believe in the many different gods of the Greeks or Romans? Why wouldn't they have their own God? or their own Gods?


Scientists who are atheists aren't trying to disprove god.
They know that the scientific method can't possibly prove or disprove god.
As such, it's a null point for them. Scientists, atheist or not, aren't interested in things they can not prove.

Furthermore, finding another planet with life on it doesn't disprove god at all. Nothing can really disprove god.
Even if the scientific community creates its own life (not cloning or splicing already existing life) but actually creates a brand new life form with its own genome (COMPLETELY POSSIBLE...look into the work of Craig Venter) ...that STILL wouldn't disprove god.

The reason why we search for life on other planets is simple. Curiosity.
We want to understand the things we do not know.
(We also want to colonize other plants ofc, but that's besides the point.)
The reason why we study space is the same reason we study the Earth. Pursuit of knowledge. It has NOTHING to do with god.








Scientists are not in any way, shape, or form trying to disprove God.

Name one, single experiment in which a scientist tried to disprove God.
Scientists only try to prove what they observe. Nothing else. Since we can't observe God, there's no reason for the scientific community to even attempt to prove or disprove it.

Any self-proclaimed scientist who IS trying to disprove God, isn't really a scientist.




This.

This post was edited by Xskankshtupx on Feb 18 2012 12:17am

Who is the smartest man in the world in that wheelchair? The guy who can't speak but has to use some kind of voice thing to speak?

My brother watched a show about him one time and he 'disproves' God. I personally didn't watch it but apparently he apparently has solid evidence about how God doesn't exist in the first place.

What that guy is doing is using his powerful mind for all the wrong things so his powerful mind is actually fairly weak.

You're talking about Hawking.
What he's spurting is his own opinion.

I'm not saying that atheists who are scientists don't have their own opinions. I'm saying that no scientist will employ the scientific method, through experimental design, to disprove God. That's because it's impossible. (It's impossible because a person can not design an experiment in which the existence of God can be proven or disproven.)

edit Sure he might have his own theory/opinion of why God can't possibly exist, but there is no way for him to either prove or disprove it because God is not something a person can observe.



LOL


This post was edited by Xskankshtupx on Feb 18 2012 12:59am

If God was concrete then how would the blind see him? How would the deaf hear him?

There would be no way that a blind person would believe if the evidence was optical.

sigh..the entire point was you claimed there is proof of god outside the bible. i said no there isn't and then you start trying to use the bible to prove there is proof of god outside of the bible. get it? you are the kind of christian that gives the entire religion such a horrible reputation. go to a church and learn instead of spouting off not only scientific ignorance but also religious ignorance.

xshank: before you cherry pick to argue with someone at least read the entire conversation. what you quoted was me explaining cpk's post to the hq guy because he is reading impaired.

Be that as it may. You still didn't rebutt what was said in the Bible. The proof I had was personal experience. I asked and investigated with an open heart to find God. It took over 17 years but I finally got there in the end.

All you need to do is ask for the Holy Spirit and seek with an open mind and God will reveal himself to you.

Steven Hawking's objective claim is that god isn't necessary. His opinion is, therefore, that god doesn't exist. There's a difference.

Also, if you want to argue about the validity of the Bible, go back to Political and Religious Discussion. This isn't science.

This post was edited by Derkaderk on Feb 18 2012 11:00am

missed the point.



not trying to start an argument,
I'm just using your restatement to make my point.
I know that's not what YOU believe so consider my post entirely in response to CPK001

sorry bud

This post was edited by Xskankshtupx on Feb 18 2012 12:02pm

fair enough i just felt insulted to even be mistaken for someone as ignorant as cpk. this thread leaves a bad taste in my mouth with him and hq both being stupid at the same time.

Ignorant people are the most powerful people in the world. We don't know enough to know enough to know that we're all screwed. We will always come up with a solution to a problem and there will always be hope no matter the situation.

We will NEVER EVER GIVE UP!