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Jun 12 2011 01:15pm
Quote (Poonisher @ 12 Jun 2011 12:11)
I don't relate to it at all, you sound like the kind of guy who borrowed his ideas from his crazy granpa's war stories.


I'm sorry to say, I don't have any crazy grandpa war stories.
But when you actually say something useful and related to my argument, let me know.
All you and Psycho do is tell me how "stupid" I am, without anything else to say.

Even if I'm wrong, neither of you have done anything to prove yourselves right.
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Jun 12 2011 01:20pm
QUOTE=Psycho-honestly go read about him and stop basing your opinion on him by what he did rather than what led him to do it.

he was heavily influenced to do the things he did he did not choose to do them himself.


That defense didn't work at Nuremberg Trials either........ The Guy was a Monster, we should absolutly base our opinions of him on what he did. Unless you are going for the insanity angle. but, he would have to be insane.



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Quote (Boogersnot308 @ Jun 12 2011 02:15pm)
I'm sorry to say, I don't have any crazy grandpa war stories.
But when you actually say something useful and related to my argument, let me know.
All you and Psycho do is tell me how "stupid" I am, without anything else to say.

Even if I'm wrong, neither of you have done anything to prove yourselves right.


Unlike you, i'm not trying to prove anything. That's just it. I'll speak for myself but i think Psycho is in the same boat.
I read, note, and comment.

I don't speak of what i don't know.

I call out people on bs arguments, strawmen, biased opinion, or just lunacy all together.

I don't need to prove what i say because its an opinion, and an observation.

I'm not stating, or claiming to know everything about ww2, and i wont go as far as judge a mans mental condition based on "logic" that i've strewn together more than 60 yrs after the fact.

What i do know about ww2 leads me to believe that you know nothing, or very little at best. Your arguments have no room to bend, therefore showing that you are 100% biased in everything you say.

FFS since page 2 you've done nothing but blindly refute counters stating shit like "if you don't give evidence to back up your claims etc etc" yet you give zero yourself. Then you go on to act like a child because your arguments are about as valid as anyone else in this thread until proven with facts.




Quote (FullArcFG @ Jun 12 2011 02:20pm)
QUOTE=Psycho-honestly go read about him and stop basing your opinion on him by what he did rather than what led him to do it.

he was heavily influenced to do the things he did he did not choose to do them himself.


That defense didn't work at Nuremberg Trials either........ The Guy was a Monster, we should absolutly base our opinions of him on what he did. Unless you are going for the insanity angle. but, he would have to be insane.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YP3K5vncgQA


Not you or i or anyone in this thread have ever experienced the power that Mengele and the hitler crew have experienced. Also, none of us have ever been brainwashed by propaganda that involves genocide.

Judging his actions is lazy, and matter of fact.

To say that he was a monster at the time of the trials is understated.

But to claim that the man was born/raised/lived a monster is utter stupidity and simple ignorance.

Think before either of you post.
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Jun 12 2011 01:31pm
Quote (Poonisher @ 12 Jun 2011 12:26)
Unlike you, i'm not trying to prove anything. That's just it. I'll speak for myself but i think Psycho is in the same boat.
I read, note, and comment.

I don't speak of what i don't know.

I call out people on bs arguments, strawmen, biased opinion, or just lunacy all together.

I don't need to prove what i say because its an opinion, and an observation.

I'm not stating, or claiming to know everything about ww2, and i wont go as far as judge a mans mental condition based on "logic" that i've strewn together more than 60 yrs after the fact.

What i do know about ww2 leads me to believe that you know nothing, or very little at best. Your arguments have no room to bend, therefore showing that you are 100% biased in everything you say.

FFS since page 2 you've done nothing but blindly refute counters stating shit like "if you don't give evidence to back up your claims etc etc" yet you give zero yourself. Then you go on to act like a child because your arguments are about as valid as anyone else in this thread until proven with facts.






Not you or i or anyone in this thread have ever experienced the power that Mengele and the hitler crew have experienced. Also, none of us have ever been brainwashed by propaganda that involves genocide.

Judging his actions is lazy, and matter of fact.

To say that he was a monster at the time of the trials is understated. 

But to claim that the man was born/raised/lived a monster is utter stupidity and simple ignorance.

Think before either of you post.


Have you not read?
He obviously hasn't given evidence, I gave a whole article.
You obviously didn't read anything I said.
I did not say he was born and raised a monster.

I'm done with both of you now, since neither of you understand or know anything I said.
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Jun 12 2011 01:45pm
Quote (Poonisher @ Jun 12 2011 02:26pm)

Not you or i or anyone in this thread have ever experienced the power that Mengele and the hitler crew have experienced. Also, none of us have ever been brainwashed by propaganda that involves genocide.

Judging his actions is lazy, and matter of fact.

To say that he was a monster at the time of the trials is understated.

But to claim that the man was born/raised/lived a monster is utter stupidity and simple ignorance.

Think before either of you post.


Poonisher, your thought process here suggests you are brainwashed by propaganda. the bold comment is the only thing I can agree with. And where did anyone remotely suggest this guy was born/raised/lived a monster?
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Quote (FullArcFG @ Jun 12 2011 02:45pm)
Poonisher, your thought process here suggests you are brainwashed by propaganda. the bold comment is the only thing I can agree with. And where did anyone remotely suggest this guy was born/raised/lived a monster?


I'm brainwashed by the material that i independently research on my own time, damn.. that's some heavy shit right there.

"boogersnot" lol refered to him as always being a monster. The word always there is key because it suggests a time frame that hasn't ceased since its debut.

Quote (Boogersnot308 @ Jun 12 2011 02:31pm)
Have you not read?
He obviously hasn't given evidence, I gave a whole article.
You obviously didn't read anything I said.
I did not say he was born and raised a monster.

I'm done with both of you now, since neither of you understand or know anything I said.


Again, you're a child and now upon reflecting on your name i see that.
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Jun 12 2011 05:03pm
Quote (Poonisher @ 12 Jun 2011 14:47)
I'm brainwashed by the material that i independently research on my own time, damn.. that's some heavy shit right there.

"boogersnot" lol refered to him as always being a monster. The word always there is key because it suggests a time frame that hasn't ceased since its debut.

Again, you're a child and now upon reflecting on your name i see that.


Sigh.
Like a name on a forum represent anything. Besides, your name isn't any more "mature" than mine.
Read what I say, or don't say anything.
You really are kind of pathetic.

Quote (Boogersnot308 @ 11 Jun 2011 20:09)
Sure, when he was extremely young he didn't show signs of what was to come, but he definitely grew into the mindset far before he gained the power he had.


This post was edited by Boogersnot308 on Jun 12 2011 05:13pm
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Quote (Boogersnot308 @ Jun 12 2011 06:03pm)
Sigh.
Like a name on a forum represent anything. Besides, your name isn't any more "mature" than mine.
Read what I say, or don't say anything.
You really are kind of pathetic.


Yes, my take on "Punisher" by adding "Poon" which is slang for pussy, is on par with "Boogersnot"

Also, you never said anything, neither did I. In case you forgot we are typing, so if you're saying this out loud as you write it LOL.

Lastly, this made me lol, since you're so adamant about facts/proof/etc

"Sure, when he was extremely young he didn't show signs of what was to come, but he definitely grew into the mindset far before he gained the power he had."

Honestly, what the fuck do you know? Please show me your sources where someone followed this guy his whole life and started developing this thirst for blood.

None of what you say is based on facts, only based on assumptions and "educated" guesses.

The only fact that i see true in this thread is that power turns all men evil, and this has been true for every man given enough power.

eg, Kahn, Vlad Tepes, Napoleon, etc etc etc. This list could go on and on and on all the way to todays age... Kim Jong-il...

Read a bit about how harmless hitler was prior to Jan 30th 1933.

Also read up a bit more on how this man blamed the jews for everything that was wrong with Germany prior to his election, and how he was the last hope Germany had.

The fact that it was Jew's that Hitler was targeting doesn't change anything of his actions. To him, they were the enemy, they were prisoners, and he had the power to do what he wanted with them.

Just like any curious doctor before him he was fascinated with the human species. Just as da vinci liked to disect dead bodies, Josef Mengele had his own interests.

Our concepts of monstrous acts only come from the ever-growing taboo on violence/blood/gore that humans are taking on, hypocritically of course because we still watch horror/action/etc and worse things go on daily.

Just 400 years ago "trepanning" was common medical practice, and it makes what mengele did look like nothing.

Change your perspective, and you may better understand the world around you.

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Jun 12 2011 08:54pm
Quote (Poonisher @ 12 Jun 2011 19:39)
Yes, my take on "Punisher" by adding "Poon" which is slang for pussy, is on par with "Boogersnot"

Also, you never said anything, neither did I. In case you forgot we are typing, so if you're saying this out loud as you write it LOL.

Lastly, this made me lol, since you're so adamant about facts/proof/etc

"Sure, when he was extremely young he didn't show signs of what was to come, but he definitely grew into the mindset far before he gained the power he had."

Honestly, what the fuck do you know? Please show me your sources where someone followed this guy his whole life and started developing this thirst for blood.

None of what you say is based on facts, only based on assumptions and "educated" guesses.

The only fact that i see true in this thread is that power turns all men evil, and this has been true for every man given enough power.

eg, Kahn, Vlad Tepes, Napoleon, etc etc etc. This list could go on and on and on all the way to todays age... Kim Jong-il...

Read a bit about how harmless hitler was prior to Jan 30th 1933.

Also read up a bit more on how this man blamed the jews for everything that was wrong with Germany prior to his election, and how he was the last hope Germany had.

The fact that it was Jew's that Hitler was targeting doesn't change anything of his actions. To him, they were the enemy, they were prisoners, and he had the power to do what he wanted with them.

Just like any curious doctor before him he was fascinated with the human species. Just as da vinci liked to disect dead bodies, Josef Mengele had his own interests.

Our concepts of monstrous acts only come from the ever-growing taboo on violence/blood/gore that humans are taking on, hypocritically of course because we still watch horror/action/etc and worse things go on daily.

Just 400 years ago "trepanning" was common medical practice, and it makes what mengele did look like nothing.

Change your perspective, and you may better understand the world around you.


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Read what I fucking typed.
Then type something.
You still don't know what my argument is.
Don't pretend you do.

This post was edited by Boogersnot308 on Jun 12 2011 08:58pm
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Jun 12 2011 10:22pm
Quote (Boogersnot308 @ Jun 12 2011 02:40am)
No.
He saved the lives of his fellow soldiers.
He killed his experiments.
He already had the mindset that Jews, among others, were not humans, and therefor did not care what he did to them.
Is that hard to understand?
When Hitler came to power, he didn't suddenly think, "Okay, now let's kill all of the Jews."
No.
He had that mindset.

Am I missing something?



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