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Jun 4 2011 10:32pm
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Jun 4 2011 11:35pm
Quote (Kamikizzle @ Jun 5 2011 03:57am)
for acting as high and mighty as you are perhaps you should try taking a look into this topic again.
1st) a combustion reaction is the reaction were talking about: where cellulose in wood (amongst other organic compounds)  is reacting with oxygen. the energy from the reaction is stored in the bonds of the carbohydrates not just simply energy 'collected from the sun'. its specifically stored in the highly reduced carbohydrates of the plant.
2nd) a combustion reaction forms carbon dioxide gas, not monoxide
3rd) it glows orange because the amount of heat, free radicals, and transition state molecs the reaction produces causes electrons to rise to a state sufficient enough to emit visible light (in woods' [and many organic compounds] case orange) as they fall back down to their ground state.
copper for instance burns with a green flame even if it is burning at the same temperature as a wood flame. natural gas burns with a blue flame, which is why your stove is always blue, not orange, despite being capable of burning at comparable temperatures as wood
4th) im pretty sure that lone500 is trolling you

so please mr high and mighty don't reproduce if you value humanity's survival in the future


lawl someone gets it. the dude was so pissed he posted that long erage post and even pmed it to me lmao.

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Quote (Kamikizzle @ 5 Jun 2011 06:57)
for acting as high and mighty as you are perhaps you should try taking a look into this topic again.
1st) a combustion reaction is the reaction were talking about: where cellulose in wood (amongst other organic compounds) is reacting with oxygen. the energy from the reaction is stored in the bonds of the carbohydrates not just simply energy 'collected from the sun'. its specifically stored in the highly reduced carbohydrates of the plant.
2nd) a combustion reaction forms carbon dioxide gas, not monoxide
3rd) it glows orange because the amount of heat, free radicals, and transition state molecs the reaction produces causes electrons to rise to a state sufficient enough to emit visible light (in woods' [and many organic compounds] case orange) as they fall back down to their ground state.
copper for instance burns with a green flame even if it is burning at the same temperature as a wood flame. natural gas burns with a blue flame, which is why your stove is always blue, not orange, despite being capable of burning at comparable temperatures as wood
4th) im pretty sure that lone500 is trolling you

so please mr high and mighty don't reproduce if you value humanity's survival in the future


When you breath you produce carbon dioxide, fire makes carbon monoxide. Don't try and school me mr. wrong-about-stuff.
Also nothing I said was incorrect so I don't understand what you're trying to say.

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4th) im pretty sure that lone500 is trolling you




This post was edited by MyEnemy on Jun 5 2011 12:24am
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Jun 5 2011 10:36am
Well, in nuclei there are positive and neutral particles together. To keep the nucleus from bursting the strong nuclear force (attraction) overcomes the electric repulsion. Due to the physics, there is more energy "stored" in a nucleus than in its free constituents. This appears as a higher mass. In a nuclear bomb for example, the net mass of the products (assuming we can gather them) is slightly less than the net mass of reactants. This is due to the change in magnitude of nuclear forces in the nuclei. The mass difference is the energy produced in the explosion.

Another way is by creating antimatter (via some reactions, say beta-plus decay). When an antiparticle meets its matter counterpart, both annihilate and turn into radiation (gamma photons). Also, a photon can materialise into a matter-antimatter particle pair.

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They are working on a fusion reactor near San Diego, they are close to getting it online, It takes them like d days to create the molecularly perfect gold targets thy shoot with those lasers, looks promising.


It's not really close. They still have serious troubles maintaining fusion and actually getting more power out than they put in (also the efficiency needs to be increased, no use to have the amount of energy put in to be as much as 99% of the output).

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Well, in nuclei there are positive and neutral particles together. To keep the nucleus from bursting the strong nuclear force (attraction) overcomes the electric repulsion. Due to the physics, there is more energy "stored" in a nucleus than in its free constituents. This appears as a higher mass. In a nuclear bomb for example, the net mass of the products (assuming we can gather them) is slightly less than the net mass of reactants. This is due to the change in magnitude of nuclear forces in the nuclei. The mass difference is the energy produced in the explosion..


Uh, this is wrong. The binding energy, or the energy you're referring to that's "stored" in the nucleus is actually thought of a mass deficit, and contrary to making the system have "higher mass", the atom itself weighs less than its constituent parts.
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Quote (MyEnemy @ Jun 4 2011 11:16pm)
When you breath you produce carbon dioxide, fire makes carbon monoxide. Don't try and school me mr. wrong-about-stuff.
Also nothing I said was incorrect so I don't understand what you're trying to say.



http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l6vc8uEcAB1qd317yo1_500.png


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combustion
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Jun 5 2011 05:33pm
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I hate to say it, but wikipedia is an awful site to use as a source.

Secondly, fire can make all sorts of compunds such as carbon monoxide OR carbon dioxide. It isn't just limited to the few formulas.

How about this formula:

C2H6 + 3 O2 → CO2 + CO + 3 H2O

Maybe I misunderstood what you are saying but both carbon mono and dioxide can occur

EDIT: After reading the wikipedia link it seems that your source contrary to what you are saying... it says both carbon monoxide and carbon dioxide can occur...

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I hate to say it, but wikipedia is an awful site to use as a source.

Secondly, fire can make all sorts of compunds such as carbon monoxide OR carbon dioxide. It isn't just limited to the few formulas.

How about this formula:

C2H6 + 3 O2 → CO2 + CO + 3 H2O

Maybe I misunderstood what you are saying but both carbon mono and dioxide can occur

EDIT: After reading the wikipedia link it seems that your source contrary to what you are saying... it says both carbon monoxide and carbon dioxide can occur...


the primary product of a combustion reaction is carbon dioxide and water.
free radicals and transition state compounds cause products like co to form but it is not the primary product of wood burning.

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When elements are burned, the products are primarily the most common oxides. Carbon will yield carbon dioxide

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Furthermore, when there is any incomplete combustion, some of carbon is converted to carbon monoxide

this kid is under the impression that carbon monoxide is the primary product of burning wood. and this isnt 2006; wikipedia may not be cite-able but it is reliable.

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Too lazy to read this entire thread, but just in case no one has answered in a simple enough manner yet:

Food is a good example of how matter = energy. We consume food everyday to gain energy to do stuff right?
So how does this food (matter) that we eat turn into energy for our bodies to use?

Food varies greatly, and is usually composed of many different nutrients (carbohydrates, fats, proteins, vitamins, or minerals). These nutrients can furthermore be broken down into atoms at its most basic level. The special combination of these atoms make up food, just like how atoms make up everything else in this world.

So our body reacts to food by breaking down these digestible nutrients to energy by processing the food in our digestive system via chemical reactions. These nutrients are then used by various parts of our body to continue functioning, since our body requires many different nutrients in order to carry out respiration and all other processes in our body. The combination of all the processes in our body functioning normally, is then what we call "life". Life needs energy from food in order to continue.

So you see, Food (matter) is just a "stored" version of energy. Energy can be attained from matter, as shown by food. Thus they are synonymous.

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Quote (Juanderful @ Jun 6 2011 04:23am)
Too lazy to read this entire thread, but just in case no one has answered in a simple enough manner yet:

Food is a good example of how matter = energy. We consume food everyday to gain energy to do stuff right?
So how does this food (matter) that we eat turn into energy for our bodies to use?

Food varies greatly, and is usually composed of many different nutrients (carbohydrates, fats, proteins, vitamins, or minerals). These nutrients can furthermore be broken down into atoms at its most basic level. The special combination of these atoms make up food, just like how atoms make up everything else in this world.

So our body reacts to food by breaking down these digestible nutrients to energy by processing the food in our digestive system via chemical reactions. These nutrients are then used by various parts of our body to continue functioning, since our body requires many different nutrients in order to carry out respiration and all other processes in our body. The combination of all the processes in our body functioning normally, is then what we call "life". Life needs energy from food in order to continue.

So you see, Food (matter) is just a "stored" version of energy. Energy can be attained from matter, as shown by food. Thus they are synonymous.


how can so many people misunderstand whats going on here..
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