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Mar 30 2011 04:13pm
Quote (jidash @ Mar 30 2011 06:38am)
and you clearly dont understand what I mean..If you find yourself unhappy,because you are surrounded with people that don't understand what you call simple,well than its your fault..And yes,smart people have much more to deal with,but they desn't have to by unhappy because of it...This "i myself find it hard to "just hang out" with people and act carefree so social situations can often times just annoy me and i leave" doesn't mean you are inteligent,that means you are asocial. In your first post in this topic,you said it perfectly,you made tiptop example. If you believe/know or whatever,that there is no afterlife,you can be miserable or you can live your life 100%. But you can do both,if you are either smart or dumb. (Trust me,there are people more inteligent than both of us that believe in god - afterlife). So I'll say it again - its just matter of how can you deal with things,not how smart you are - I do NOT believe that inteligence makes you less or more happy...




:rofl:  :rofl: been there


i'm very social when its not based around doing completely stupid things. why would i want to be around people who have no similarities with me and will laugh non stop at fart jokes? i have a hard time finding people that would fit me as friends since i have a doctorate level IQ but also enjoy extreme sports. whens the last time you met someone with a phd that enjoyed motocross? its easy to make friends when you are average because the bar is set very low.
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Quote (Psycho- @ 30 Mar 2011 23:13)
i'm very social when its not based around doing completely stupid things. why would i want to be around people who have no similarities with me and will laugh non stop at fart jokes? i have a hard time finding people that would fit me as friends since i have a doctorate level IQ but also enjoy extreme sports. whens the last time you met someone with a phd that enjoyed motocross? its easy to make friends when you are average because the bar is set very low.


well those are stupid people,I'm talking about normal people...Actually one of my best friends is cardio surgeon and it's not even month when we were at snowboard competition and he signed in (he is 34). And don't get me wrong,I do understand what you're talking about,I just dont agree with it. You can count my friends on two hands,but thats my choise,coz I don't need/want anybody else in my life for same reasons as you don't want to hang out with people who laugh at fart jokes. I study law at university,in free time astrophysics and I can asure you that none of those friends can't undestand one sentence when I start to talk about it. But that doesn't mean that they don't support me when I'm in some kind of trouble,or that I don't enjoy time with them...I can always talk about law in school,or work..I can talk about astrophysic anywhere on the internet...I feel sorry for you that you're surrounded by idiots,but they are idiots coz they are idiots,not because of their IQ...I've met a lot of really smart people that would laugh with those guys...

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well those are stupid people,I'm talking about normal people...Actually one of my best friends is cardio surgeon and it's not even month when we were at snowboard competition and he signed in (he is 34). And don't get me wrong,I do understand what you're talking about,I just dont agree with it. You can count my friends on two hands,but thats my choise,coz I don't need/want anybody else in my life for same reasons as you don't want to hang out with people who laugh at fart jokes. I study law at university,in free time astrophysics and I can asure you that none of those friends can't undestand one sentence when I start to talk about it. But that doesn't mean that they don't support me when I'm in some kind of trouble,or that I don't enjoy time with them...I can always talk about law in school,or work..I can talk about astrophysic anywhere on the internet...I feel sorry for you that you're surrounded by idiots,but they are idiots coz they are idiots,not because of their IQ...I've met a lot of really smart people that would laugh with those guys...


i just don't see why anyone would wanna hang around people who aren't anything like them. i mean to me its like inviting people to the beach to hang out and they won't get out of the car. i have plenty of people i hang out with for motocross but when we aren't doing that they typically do things i don't want to do. to find a girl that is similar enough to even consider a serious relationship with its damn near impossible. sex isn't an issue but relationships are more important than sex to me.
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Quote (bentherdonethat @ Feb 25 2011 06:45pm)
The idea behind that is that it's harder to find intellectually fulfilling relationships if you're TOO intelligent, and that leads you to feel like you're always alone. That only applies to TRULY gifted people (IQs of like 180+) since there are plenty of people around with IQs in the 130-150 range.


Einstein had an approximate IQ of like 165. 150 is very gifted. The 130-150 range has the same number of people as severely retarded people.
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Quote (jidash @ 30 Mar 2011 02:56)
Doesn't make ANY sence...since when is the happiness/unhappiness related to how smart you are?Do you really think that every scientist cries every night into pillow about how misserable his life is?or how fucked up the world is?Or do you think that every dumb person wakes up with a stupid smile on his face every morning?Well that would be stupid...It's just about how you deal with things...You can cry about it,you can curse society,you can believe that it is a "gods plan",you can look for the "better side",or you can do what I do - don't give a shit... I guess some of you will think "well he doesn't think about what I think,he does't see those problems" - I do,I'm just not going to let it ruin my life...mahalo

Oh and btw,for all you guys complaining about how you can't get girl,coz you are too smart: Maybe you aren't....Maybe if you wouldn't sit whole day infront of computer making stupid topics on jsp and go out,you would meet someone..Maybe you are just nerds who cant talk to women...OR (my guess) maybe you are just ugly...I can assure you geniuses that there are plenty of smart women out there...and beautiful at the same time.....


Humans are a social species and have a fundamental need for social companionship and a fear of rejection.

Now, "abnormal" individuals will have a harder time to fit into societies. Since they will feel some kind of rejection.
There are more idiots out there than smart people, hence it will be harder for a smart guy to find friends he can chill with.
This might lead him to being unhappy.
And seeing idiots have fun and chill might depress him/her even more. This might raise feelings of rejection.

There's much more to come, but can't be bothered right now.
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Apr 1 2011 12:44pm
i'd say no. however intelligence often brings over assessment of a given entity. in other words, your happiness is measured according to other people. if you perceive them to he happier relative to yourself, you may be over analyzing it. one of my best friends growing up also seemed to be very happy. always smiling and laughing. he killed himself a year ago. best advice i could give an intelligent person would be to not over think it.
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Apr 6 2011 10:17pm
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How true is that?


I'd say certain kinds of knowledge rather then intelligence.

This post was edited by YaC on Apr 6 2011 10:17pm
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Humans are a social species and have a fundamental need for social companionship and a fear of rejection.

Now, "abnormal" individuals will have a harder time to fit into societies. Since they will feel some kind of rejection.
There are more idiots out there than smart people, hence it will be harder for a smart guy to find friends he can chill with.
This might lead him to being unhappy.
And seeing idiots have fun and chill might depress him/her even more. This might raise feelings of rejection.

There's much more to come, but can't be bothered right now.


That is indeed true... Sadly.
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Apr 7 2011 04:10pm
the statement is way too general..

it's also inaccurate as it implies that greater intelligence has a direct and consistent correlation with happiness, which is obviously false, but that's besides the point.

from a social context, i think it's important to look at how said intelligence influences a persons actions and interests, and then from there youngdilo pretty much sums up the rest.

Quote (YoungDilo @ Apr 1 2011 12:14pm)
Humans are a social species and have a fundamental need for social companionship and a fear of rejection.

Now, "abnormal" individuals will have a harder time to fit into societies. Since they will feel some kind of rejection.
There are more idiots out there than smart people, hence it will be harder for a smart guy to find friends he can chill with.
This might lead him to being unhappy.
And seeing idiots have fun and chill might depress him/her even more. This might raise feelings of rejection.

There's much more to come, but can't be bothered right now.


it's also important to note which areas the persons intelligence thrive or showcase themselves in, and understanding what makes these people happy or unhappy. also in most cases you need to take a look at what kind of resources (not necessarily money) the person is working with (and it should be noted that this is true for everyone, regardless of intelligence), and there are obviously even more variables that can play a role.

even now this is still a bit general, but you can begin to see that the number and scope of influences is enormous.

ill throw down 2 groups of examples for lols.

the prodigy who receives government aid for himself and his family from his work, the inventor who's given all the materials she needs, the perfectionist chef who runs the best restaurant in town, the politician who rises to power and becomes an icon in his country.. all these people are obviously going to have more satisfaction with themselves and the situation around them than say,..


the guy who comes up with a brilliant form of alternative energy, only to have big oil buy and burn his patents, or the genius-level athlete who either gets injured or is just missing some of the natural abilities he needs, or the child slave laborer who has a useful affinity (say, aeronautical engineering) but never does anything with it because it isn't nurtured, or a political visionary who is simply born in the wrong country or at the wrong time, or someone like tesla who was simply too far ahead of his time and caught a few too many bad breaks to maximize his potential

obviously these are extreme examples, but you can even look at someone who sees their group of friends or co-workers and sees a bunch of bad choices or horrible habits influencing their life, and is powerless to do anything about it, or an aspergers child who has to deal with idiotic parents or a bad school system or something

all in all i feel like with increased intelligence it becomes much easier identifying the negatives (as someone else who i cbf to quote already stated) and failures of people, society, the "system", whatever, and that coupled with the burden of actually knowing solutions (or at least believing that) but being unable to actually influence anything (bureaucracy makes it cameo appearance) can be much more damaging.


also from a relationship perspective, you tend to see a lot more "weird" habits and beliefs, and that will pretty much kick the shit out of the compatibility end of the equation
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Apr 7 2011 04:25pm
Maybe simply put, More sad.
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