Quote (lone500 @ Feb 6 2011 05:45pm)

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Quote (general_patton @ Feb 11 2011 03:46pm)

Earth's gravity is getting bigger every year. Not by a hell of a lot, but I can make a heuristic argument in favor of this position.

Quote (bentherdonethat @ Feb 9 2011 11:53pm)

Can you explain that gravity failing thing? I'm pretty sure gravity doesn't just get weaker over time like time. Sure, two objects that are farther apart have less of a gravitational attraction, but it sounds like you're saying the gravitational attraction weakens and that's what is causing the moon to get farther away in the first place.

Quote (Trademarks @ Feb 18 2011 09:42am)

I'm pretty sure that Earth's mass remains unchanged. Gravity is directly related to mass so I doubt it changes.

Quote (Trademarks @ Feb 18 2011 09:42am)

I'm pretty sure I've read somewhere that Moon was SLOWLY drifting away from earth's orbit. I can't remember the explanation but logically it can be explained by the Sun's attraction being stronger than Earth's or simply Moon's rotation that prevent it to fall on the Earth being strongest than the actual gravity.

Quote (ChessMastr117 @ Feb 9 2011 11:58pm)

Pretty soon the Tides of the ocean will be effected.

Quote (ChessMastr117 @ Feb 9 2011 11:58pm)

soon the moon will just float away, and collide with another planet, possibly the earth.

Quote (ChessMastr117 @ Feb 10 2011 12:12am)

No Is will STOP oprbiting the Earth.... And start orbiting the SUN... and the MOONS ORBIT WILL BE SO CLOSE TO THE EARTH that it might interfere with it....

Quote (LD_50 @ Feb 18 2011 10:26am)

The earth accumulates several hundered tons of space debris every year.



I guess I can finally shed light on this and not let it go any farther since no one has yet to get it right in this thread.

The moon's gravity tugs on the earth creating a tidal buldge (which is responsible for the tides), and since the earth rotates this buldge is always slightly ahead of the moon placing more mass ahead of the moon and less behind it. This in turn tugs back on the moon increasing its velocity which puts it into a higher orbit, farther from earth, but it is only a few inches per year.

Now to specifically address some of ChessMastr117's claims



In 1 million years, the moon will have drifted about 3 million inches farther from earth which is a little more than 47 miles. Now, the moon's orbit is eliptical so it doesn't have a set distance from earth. At apogee it is at the frathest point of this elipse from earth at ~251,968 miles and at perigee it is at the closest point at ~221,463 miles. So through the course of a lunar cycle the moon's distance from earth varies by over 30,000 miles so to claim that the tides will soon be affected by the departing moon is, for lack of a better word, retarded.





By our best estimates the sun will "die" in about 5 billion years, and in that 5 billion years, at an average of 3in per year (not claiming it will stay at that, if anything it should slow down), the moon will only have ~doubled it's current orbit, so these claims are just completely wrong.

Quote (ChessMastr117 @ Feb 23 2011 09:29pm)

Lol you have no life, to have actually calculated all of that math

Quote (bentherdonethat @ Feb 23 2011 09:30pm)

Or five minutes on Google. If you'd tried using Google, perhaps you wouldn't have been so very, very wrong

Quote (ChessMastr117 @ Feb 23 2011 08:44pm)

Whats the point of debating if your just going to google the right answer? There is no point to the bantering. its pointless

Quote (ChessMastr117 @ Feb 23 2011 09:44pm)

Whats the point of debating if your just going to google the right answer? There is no point to the bantering. its pointless

Quote (bentherdonethat @ Feb 23 2011 10:10pm)

1) It's completely illogical to argue a point in a debate without actually having some type of knowledge on the subject. If you want to participate, you should get informed before trying.
2) I hate to be the one to break it to you since we were having so much fun earlier, but this never was a thread for debating. It was a thread for trolling. You took my posts seriously and made it a LOT more entertaining than it would have been otherwise.

Quote (AiNedeSpelCzech @ Feb 6 2011 09:34pm)

It amazes me that so many allegedly "educated" people have fallen so quickly and so hard for a fraudulent fabrication of such laughable proportions. The very idea that a gigantic ball of rock happens to orbit our planet, showing itself in neat, four-week cycles -- with the same side facing us all the time -- is ludicrous. Furthermore, it is an insult to common sense and a damnable affront to intellectual honesty and integrity. That people actually believe it is evidence that the liberals have wrested the last vestiges of control of our public school system from decent, God-fearing Americans (as if any further evidence was needed! Daddy's Roommate? God Almighty!)

Documentaries such as Enemy of the State have accurately portrayed the elaborate, byzantine network of surveillance satellites that the liberals have sent into space to spy on law-abiding Americans. Equipped with technology developed by Handgun Control, Inc., these satellites have the ability to detect firearms from hundreds of kilometers up. That's right, neighbors .. the next time you're out in the backyard exercising your Second Amendment rights, the liberals will see it! These satellites are sensitive enough to tell the difference between a Colt .45 and a .38 Special! And when they detect you with a firearm, their computers cross-reference the address to figure out your name, and then an enormous database housed at Berkeley is updated with information about you.

Of course, this all works fine during the day, but what about at night? Even the liberals can't control the rotation of the Earth to prevent nightfall from setting in (only Joshua was able to ask for that particular favor!) That's where the "moon" comes in. Powered by nuclear reactors, the "moon" is nothing more than an enormous balloon, emitting trillions of candlepower of gun-revealing light. Piloted by key members of the liberal community, the "moon" is strategically moved across the country, pointing out those who dare to make use of their God-given rights at night!

Yes, I know this probably sounds paranoid and preposterous, but consider this. Despite what the revisionist historians tell you, there is no mention of the "moon" anywhere in literature or historical documents -- anywhere -- before 1950. That is when it was initially launched. When President Josef Kennedy, at the State of the Union address, proclaimed "We choose to go to the moon", he may as well have said "We choose to go to the weather balloon." The subsequent faking of a "moon" landing on national TV was the first step in a long history of the erosion of our constitutional rights by leftists in this country. No longer can we hide from our government when the sun goes down.