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i dont think anyone disagree'd with it, but some clarification on what your actually talking about would be helpful.

What part? The only thing I'd take issue with is that "thought can affect matter faster than the speed of light." Seems logically dissonant with the first half of that post.

that one dude said you'd have to be a fool not to question it (which i don't so i guess he'd consider me a fool)



i could see that. however a thought requires traveling across synapses which have resistance. even with sodium/potassium junctions which allow for jumping, they are still limited.

the phenomenon i speak of is called quantum entanglement. i could explain it to you all, however it's much more interesting to research it yourself.

on second thought it's pretty confusing. the simple explanation is as follows.

if i have two subatomic particles in a close system that are linked. which is to say one is opposite the other (up spin and down spin).

i then separate them across a very large distance

i interact with one of these particles (by attempting to view it's quantum state)

i will alter it's physical state. this in turn alters the physical state of the other particle.

this is change is observed INSTANTANEOUSLY.

if burdened by a speed of light barrier, the change would only require a second or maybe a fraction of a second.

in short human interaction (which requires thought) affects matter faster than the speed of light.

this is very interesting. it supports the theory that all matter is connected. there have been several other experiments which have shown this. in addition we still haven't discovered physical mass (still iso the particle which gives "mass" to everything"). which further supports that all matter on our planet is a web of energy that is interconnected (including man).

This post was edited by zeratul87 on Feb 14 2011 05:44pm

are you sure that light doesnt affect matter?

no i'm sure that it does. it excites particles by supplying it with energy which subsequently "effects" matter.

This post was edited by zeratul87 on Feb 14 2011 05:45pm

Observation doesn't require human interaction, so a "thought" isn't required to take a quantum mechanical "measurement." As for action at a distance via quantum entanglement, the information of what was measured in one place can't propagate faster than the speed of light, so the fact that measuring one of the particles collapses the other's wave function doesn't violate relativity as far as I'm aware. For another instance where something travels faster than light without transmitting information, see the Group Velocity of a light wave. I remember solving a problem where the group velocity of a particular light wave in a vacuum was about 30 times the speed of light, while the signal velocity remained at c.

you're right that observation doesn't require human interaction. however i wasn't trying to claim as such. i was using observation as a thought process as it related to the topic of discussion.

i never claimed that it violated relativity.

young demonstrated the affect of human observation on the wave function of matter. (wave-particle duality)

this has been extended to the above experiment which i have explained. there are several videos out there for people who don't understand. i'm not a teacher.

i haven't read about the group velocity of light however if you're saying that a group size smaller than 30, all together had a speed greater than 30 times the speed of light, that is interesting indeed. i'll have to research that.

very easy to comprehend video.