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Jul 6 2010 05:40pm
Quote (juliusjuice @ Jul 6 2010 06:35pm)
wow that is either really cruel or just uninformed opinion. most countries simply cannot feed their people because of lack of food. america has a staggerring amount of homeless but on the plus side we throw away enough (29 million tons a year or 25% of what we bring home from the grocery store) for them to find a meal in a dumpster, if you call that eating.

the point is that you are looking at the 6 million saying we cant change the system because of the immediate effect, in the long run hundreds of millions will be fed. pretty simple logic to me.


If some other country cant feed themselves that is their problem. Plus you haven't addressed how taking away all those jobs are justifiable. Why feed hundreds of millions of other people people at the cost of six million American jobs?.

Also, In this thread it was mentioned that clear cutting for pasture is damaging the earth, Where the fuck do you think we get more farmland? Just thought i would address that too.
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Jul 6 2010 05:46pm
Quote (juliusjuice @ Jul 6 2010 07:35pm)
wow that is either really cruel or just uninformed opinion. most countries simply cannot feed their people because of lack of food. america has a staggerring amount of homeless but on the plus side we throw away enough (29 million tons a year or 25% of what we bring home from the grocery store) for them to find a meal in a dumpster, if you call that eating.

the point is that you are looking at the 6 million saying we cant change the system because of the immediate effect, in the long run hundreds of millions will be fed. pretty simple logic to me.


ok i see you're point now
meat = death
if we didnt have the meat industry then there would be a lot more death wouldn't there

ur a fucking idiot if u remove 6 million jobs that increases unemployment percent, witch will cause a even deeper economic depression, witch will fuck over the whole country
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Jul 6 2010 10:58pm
Quote (Aisu_aS @ Jul 6 2010 06:40pm)
If some other country cant feed themselves that is their problem. Plus you haven't addressed how taking away all those jobs are justifiable. Why feed hundreds of millions of other people people at the cost of six million American jobs?.
Also, In this thread it was mentioned that clear cutting for pasture is damaging the earth, Where the fuck do you think we get more farmland? Just thought i would address that too.

you say f the world but for some reason have respect for your own country? why do we need more farmland? you think we need additional plants to feed humans without livestock?
not sure why i even responded to this...
Quote (Kayo2595 @ Jul 6 2010 06:46pm)
ok i see you're point now
meat = death
if we didnt have the meat industry then there would be a lot more death wouldn't there
ur a fucking idiot if u remove 6 million jobs that increases unemployment percent, witch will cause a even deeper economic depression, witch will fuck over the whole country

lol first i never said meat = death. your economics dont account for any of the positive benefits which make 6 million jobs look like nothing. think about it. we are doing more work to get our food which is inefficient. these people can do much more useful work now, i dont understand why you dont see it that way.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarianism

i suggest reading the chapters
Health benefits and concerns
Protein
Animal-to-human disease transmissions
Longevity


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethics_of_eating_meat

read:
Environmental issues
Treatment of animals


This post was edited by juliusjuice on Jul 6 2010 11:15pm
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Jul 7 2010 12:32am
Quote (juliusjuice @ Jul 6 2010 11:58pm)
you say f the world but for some reason have respect for your own country? why do we need more farmland? you think we need additional plants to feed humans without livestock?
not sure why i even responded to this...
lol first i never said meat = death. your economics dont account for any of the positive benefits which make 6 million jobs look like nothing. think about it. we are doing more work to get our food which is inefficient. these people can do much more useful work now, i dont understand why you dont see it that way.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarianism

i suggest reading the chapters
Health benefits and concerns
Protein
Animal-to-human disease transmissions
Longevity


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethics_of_eating_meat

read:
Environmental issues
Treatment of animals

Well Your the one saying if we cut out meat we can feed Over 9000 moar people.
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Jul 7 2010 12:50am
Quote (juliusjuice @ Jul 7 2010 12:58am)
you say f the world but for some reason have respect for your own country? why do we need more farmland? you think we need additional plants to feed humans without livestock?
not sure why i even responded to this...
lol first i never said meat = death. your economics dont account for any of the positive benefits which make 6 million jobs look like nothing. think about it. we are doing more work to get our food which is inefficient. these people can do much more useful work now, i dont understand why you dont see it that way.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarianism

i suggest reading the chapters
Health benefits and concerns
Protein
Animal-to-human disease transmissions
Longevity


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethics_of_eating_meat

read:
Environmental issues
Treatment of animals


Is it more moral to force people to stop eating meat or allow people to exercise free will?
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Jul 7 2010 12:55am
I like hunting for shits and giggles. That way, the carnivores don't have to work for their food.
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Jul 7 2010 01:03am
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ol first i never said meat = death. your economics dont account for any of the positive benefits which make 6 million jobs look like nothing. think about it. we are doing more work to get our food which is inefficient. these people can do much more useful work now, i dont understand why you dont see it that way.


So basically you say fuck 6 million people and take their jobs for ~7million Americans out of ~307million can be happy? I see no justification.
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Jul 8 2010 12:35pm
Quote (acidNramen @ Jul 5 2010 03:05am)
Id say the title sums up the thread well enough...


case solved sherlock


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Jul 8 2010 07:17pm
This guy is so retarded.. Reads one thing off the Internet and instantly believes it. Yeah some farm animals have shit injected into them that makes them worse for us, but so do fruits and vegetables. If ur so woried about getting cancer and dieing from eating meat then u should start growing ur own crops or moving to europe. Have u seen the size of some tomatoes? Disgustingly massive.
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Jul 8 2010 10:47pm
Quote (juliusjuice @ Jul 6 2010 06:02pm)
rediculous. first off ive been a vege for 16 something years and am in perfect health. vege diet is by far superior to a diet with meat for the reasons give previously, the fact that you stretch so far to reject them shows you are biased and denying the facts. lol at the part about how "cows have fun". have you seen how we raise our chickens or pigs? it is not natural, it is immoral and it is causing serious health problems. you can eat all the meat you want to but at least acknowledge these simple truths about where it comes from and the harm it causes. i dont want my 12 year old developing breasts from the rBGH in the milk, which btw is banned in canada, new zealand and most of europe. you body creates the amino acids (protein) you need to survive, just like a cows body does from eating grass.

meat does not make us money.


Ok firstly, you say you are in perfect health, but perhaps you should actually compare yourself to someone who eats meat and check your protein levels. It is definitely not superior to a meat diet, unless of course you are eating too much meat but if you are eating too much of anything then it is bad for you. As long as you eat the correct amount, then a diet that has meat in it is healthier than one that goes without. The chickens I eat are always free range chickens, so yes I have seen them and they are living a pretty happy life. So are the cows that I eat. I never eat an animal that has been tortured its whole life. Your body does create amino acids, but that is not enough to depend on. You still need to eat protein. And as for the last sentence, that is just bullshit. Meat makes us a fuckload of money. Compare how much meat costs to how much fruit and vegetables cost. I can guarantee you that a meal involving meat will cost a hell of a lot more than a meal without.
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