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May 24 2010 12:06am
Quote (Psycho- @ May 24 2010 01:14am)
doubtful. its still a harmful substance with a negative culture around it. you have to understand that if marijuana was legalized for recreational use it wouldn't be long til cocaine would have the same opportunity. sure weed isn't as bad but the principal is the same. both plant based so whats the difference is what theyll say. its a downhill road if weed ever gets legalized for recreational use.


using one drug to outlaw another drug would never be tolerated by anyone that speaks up. they both must be looked at as if they were both tylenol. Also, it is impossible to over-dose smoking weed. I don't even believe you could ingest this much oil to over-dose before puking it up first. cocaine on the other hand is very easily abused to cause death and must be looked at a little differently and with a lot more control. Bottom line is, weed should not be labeled a class 1 narcotic, the only thing I think preventing it from becoming a class 2 drug at this point is because of how much money is made from the criminalization of the plant.
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May 24 2010 11:41am
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doubtful. its still a harmful substance with a negative culture around it. you have to understand that if marijuana was legalized for recreational use it wouldn't be long til cocaine would have the same opportunity. sure weed isn't as bad but the principal is the same. both plant based so whats the difference is what theyll say. its a downhill road if weed ever gets legalized for recreational use.


lol, no.
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May 24 2010 12:15pm
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lol, no.


excellent rebuttal.
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May 24 2010 09:58pm
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lol, no.


people like you are why the marijuana lobbyist are still waiting. go be a moron elsewhere.

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the problem isn't that its extremely harmful but rather the culture around it. since marijuana is illegal and the ones who want to legalize it probably use it than they are just a bunch of lawbreakers. its hard to show the good side of something if everyone trying to convince you are ignoring the law.
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May 24 2010 10:12pm
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people like you are why the marijuana lobbyist are still waiting. go be a moron elsewhere.

back on topic

the problem isn't that its extremely harmful but rather the culture around it. since marijuana is illegal and the ones who want to legalize it probably use it than they are just a bunch of lawbreakers. its hard to show the good side of something if everyone trying to convince you are ignoring the law.


true, but we are innocent until proven guilty. Just because they know there is a huge problem, does not mean they can assume only these people are wanting it legal. I don't really see the logic myself going this way.
I more find it wrong that they want to take my guns away. legalizing weed or decriminalizing at the very least federally cannot create a huge wave of legal problems. As where taking something like my guns away, will only further develop crime as I will not let them go without a fight.
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May 24 2010 10:29pm
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true, but we are innocent until proven guilty.  Just because they know there is a huge problem, does not mean they can assume only these people are wanting it legal.  I don't really see the logic myself going this way.
I more find it wrong that they want to take my guns away.  legalizing weed or decriminalizing at the very least federally cannot create a huge wave of legal problems.  As where taking something like my guns away, will only further develop crime as I will not let them go without a fight.


im not saying they are going to prosecute the lobbyist or anything its just that the majority of pro-weed people are morons. sure there are times when weed is useful as compared to shit like prescription drugs, but to legalize it for recreational use would cause more harm than good.
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May 24 2010 10:53pm
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im not saying they are going to prosecute the lobbyist or anything its just that the majority of pro-weed people are morons. sure there are times when weed is useful as compared to shit like prescription drugs, but to legalize it for recreational use would cause more harm than good.


here is what I think are the top beneficial reasons for the legalization of weed:
1. Less criminal convictions freeing up jail cells country-wide(losing jobs and lowering taxes due to not needing so many correctional facilities)
2. More jobs, because it will be in high demand and we need some growers.(returning jobs to guards)
3. the people smoking it will be taxed to hell like tobacco smokers(returning money lost from jail taxes)
4. more people living in pain with such problems as glaucoma, will not fear being scrutinized by peers near as much since it is now legal. Allowing them to more openly and confidently accept using it as medicine.(like my mom) this is the biggest reason many people find it wrong, it's just illegal.
5. tourists from other countries wouldn't mind visiting since they now wouldn't have to worry about being criminalized for their habit.(raising nation-wide income from outside of the states)


what are your cons for this matter?


how did I let myself get sucked into this, I didn't even make this thread for me lol.

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May 25 2010 04:54am
Quote (Psycho- @ May 24 2010 08:58pm)
people like you are why the marijuana lobbyist are still waiting. go be a moron elsewhere.

back on topic

the problem isn't that its extremely harmful but rather the culture around it. since marijuana is illegal and the ones who want to legalize it probably use it than they are just a bunch of lawbreakers. its hard to show the good side of something if everyone trying to convince you are ignoring the law.


The prohibition made a lot of normal people into lawbreakers, but does that mean they're at fault? No. And the prohibition was useless. Hemp would replace too many products that big companies are selling, and they give a lot of $ to the Gov't. Just look at Drug companies and how much they pay senators, and even the President. They'd lose money in the long run, so they keep it illegal. Its definatley not as worse as alcohol, you can't OD on it, it doesn't impare your judgement as much, and if you eat it or use a vaporizer theres no "smoke" for cancer.
You can even smoke nutmeg and it will start having the same effects as weed, it'll make you feel like shit, but will still get you high.
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May 25 2010 12:10pm
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The prohibition made a lot of normal people into lawbreakers, but does that mean they're at fault? No. And the prohibition was useless. Hemp would replace too many products that big companies are selling, and they give a lot of $ to the Gov't. Just look at Drug companies and how much they pay senators, and even the President. They'd lose money in the long run, so they keep it illegal. Its definatley not as worse as alcohol, you can't OD on it, it doesn't impare your judgement as much, and if you eat it or use a vaporizer theres no "smoke" for cancer.
You can even smoke nutmeg and it will start having the same effects as weed, it'll make you feel like shit, but will still get you high.


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May 25 2010 12:59pm
Quote (Psycho- @ May 24 2010 10:58pm)
people like you are why the marijuana lobbyist are still waiting. go be a moron elsewhere.

back on topic

the problem isn't that its extremely harmful but rather the culture around it. since marijuana is illegal and the ones who want to legalize it probably use it than they are just a bunch of lawbreakers. its hard to show the good side of something if everyone trying to convince you are ignoring the law.


people like you are why marijuana is still taboo, go be an uneducated fool elsewhere. your generalizations are fallacious, to say the least. you provide no insight with your bullshit assumptions. don't speak about a topic you know nothing about.
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