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Mar 3 2010 06:26pm
Quote (AEtheric @ Mar 3 2010 01:22pm)
We can look at Alpha Centauri with a telescope. We cannot do the same with a black hole, all we can see is gravitational lensing which is indirect evidence at best.


You look at photons from a cross section of sky and interpret them as the existence of a star in a certain location.
You look at photons from a cross section of sky and interpret them as the existence of a black hole in a certain location.

Your "direct" observation of a star is not really direct, just simpler.
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Mar 3 2010 07:11pm
i never lived in a black hole before
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Mar 3 2010 10:56pm
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i never lived in a black hole before


That's where pikachu is from retard
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Mar 3 2010 11:01pm
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That's where pikachu is from retard


LIES!!!
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Mar 4 2010 10:37am
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I have been reading several definitions of what a black hole is, how it is formed etc

But the people who wrote the explanations either know nothing and are trying to make it seem like they do, or they have no idea how to speak English using huge words that only physicist would understand and not 99% of the worlds population.

So could anyone explain just these few things to me without using unnecessary 'smart' words.

What is it?

What happens if something goes into one?

How is it formed?

I seen pictures of it in space and it just looks like a hurricane/cyclone cloud system, but some other sciency 3d picture showed it as a pure black bubble..


don't belive all craps
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Mar 5 2010 10:14am
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According to the general theory of relativity, a black hole is a region of space from which nothing, including light, can escape. It is the result of the deformation of spacetime caused by a very compact mass. Around a black hole there is an undetectable surface which marks the point of no return, called an event horizon. It is called "black" because it absorbs all the light that hits it, reflecting nothing, just like a perfect black body in thermodynamics. Under the theory of quantum mechanics black holes possess a temperature and emit Hawking radiation.

Despite its invisible interior, a black hole can be observed through its interaction with other matter. A black hole can be inferred by tracking the movement of a group of stars that orbit a region in space. Alternatively, when gas falls into a stellar black hole from a companion star, the gas spirals inward, heating to very high temperatures and emitting large amounts of radiation that can be detected from earthbound and Earth-orbiting telescopes.

Astronomers have identified numerous stellar black hole candidates, and have also found evidence of supermassive black holes at the center of galaxies. After observing the motion of nearby stars for 16 years, in 2008 astronomers found compelling evidence that a supermassive black hole of more than 4 million solar masses is located near the Sagittarius A* region in the center of the Milky Way galaxy.


and people still dont belive in god lol
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Mar 5 2010 01:24pm
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and people still dont belive in god lol


What exactly is this supposed to mean? Are you seriously one of those people that sees any complex or unexplained system and defaults to "God?" Why exactly do some people think that "God" is the only alternative to "we don't quite know everything?" Belief in God isn't something I'll judge anyone for, but if they're rationale is that "there are amazing things! must be God!" then I'm sure as hell going to judge that. That's absolutely ridiculous.
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Mar 5 2010 01:43pm
Quote (Azrad @ Mar 4 2010 12:26am)
You look at photons from a cross section of sky and interpret them as the existence of a star in a certain location.
You look at photons from a cross section of sky and interpret them as the existence of a black hole in a certain location.

Your "direct" observation of a star is not really direct, just simpler.


:/ Nice job trying to make it look like they're the same thing when they're not. Not all gravitational lensing of light is from a black hole or is evidence of a black hole, whereas light from a star is always light from a star.
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Mar 5 2010 03:23pm
Quote (AEtheric @ Mar 5 2010 12:43pm)
:/  Nice job trying to make it look like they're the same thing when they're not. Not all gravitational lensing of light is from a black hole or is evidence of a black hole, whereas light from a star is always light from a star.


Except that gravitational lensing is not the only method (or even the most commonly method) of determining the location of a black hole. Mostly "center of mass" calculations are used, and this is why most black holes that are found are very massive (because the more mass it has, the easier it is to find with this method).

Also not all light comes from stars.
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Mar 5 2010 06:52pm
They're working on directly detecting black holes now.. due to the radiation it has to give off from quantam mechanics, it would have a barely visible aura that we might be able to detect within the near future.

Now, you can argue whether dark matter/dark energy exist.. but black holes are there. They wouldn't claim they were in the center of almost every galaxy if there wasn't something causing those effects on nearby stars.
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