This. well at least the part where i'm just glad to be here.

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Well, you seem to have a very obtuse and narrow view of the world. That's what happens when you try and make science into a philosophical worldview.

im sorry but you are retarded if you cant believe there are things in this universe undetectable by humans... thats really all i have to say about anything you have just said...

who is this directed at? if its me.. im very open minded to thoughts an theorys amout the universe because there is so much we can never know.. who am i (or who is anyone in that matter) to say someone is wrong about something so vast and unidentified.. i just like talking about it because of the depth you can go into it.

Yeah its directed at the topic. So much of the stuff that you said was philosophical, not scientific. Science says nothing of meaning or purpose. ItI'm just saying that science isn't everything, and alot of science out there is totally theoretical and speculative, not empirical so it shouldn't be stamped as fact and put into storage. Science can't explain:

1. mathematics and logic (science can't prove them because science presupposes them),
2. metaphysical truths (such as, there are minds that exist other than my own),
3. ethical judgments (you can't prove by science that the Nazi's were evil, because morality is not subject to the scientific method),
4. aesthetic judgments (the beautiful, like good foods, cannot be scientifically proven), and, ironically
5. science itself (the belief that the scientific method discovers truth can't be proven by the scientific method itself)

Science is a valuable tool but it can't prove everything, and you turn science into a religion when you try to say that the scientific method can explain things that it wasn't intended to. You should hit the library and read some philosophy books or some books on religion.

obviously you dony listen well i didnt even finish your post.. NONE of what i said, i said was fact.. its all theorys..

and how does those theories "proves" that there is no purpose in life? i dont see the relevance. Since i dont see the relevance, i attempt to understand what you mean.

first possibility: you are trying to say that we human are insignificant comparing to the whole universe, and that whatever human do, it is of minor importance to the universe as a whole.
---if this is what you mean, you are looking it at a wrong scale. No one on earth attempts to influence the whole universe, we attempts to make influence in reachable areas, and this is the scale you should use when you try to find out the purpose of life.

second possibility: A series of events lead to the existence of planet Earth, and human is a product of evolution on this planet, all of these events does not have a purpose and occur totally at random without the interfere of any supernatural force. Therefore there is no purpose of life.
---if this is what you mean, I disagree. I does not believe in any supernatural force, and I agree with evolution, abiogenesis and big bang theory. However, these theories being true doesnt necessary means that there is no purpose of life. There is no correlation between the existance of god and the existance of purpose of life.

if you mean something else, tell me.

This post was edited by hk_nobody on Oct 5 2009 10:00am

if life i just one big test. whats the point of taking it just to fail. i would like to belive this isent a test and what we do here matters.. insted of relying on the unknown of the after life.

third possibility: you are trying to say that the universe is going to end and return to a point of infinite energy anyway, therefore there is no purpose of life.

in a smaller scale, thats just like those loser saying "we will all die some day, why bother"