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Jun 7 2009 06:34pm
Quote (JesperIF @ Sun, Jun 7 2009, 11:13pm)
It's funny how BovineDesi considers himself the only person to detain the absolute truth.


Theres a difference between touting to know the absolute truth and just pointing out that some things have been proven wrong or have alternate theories.

Honestly, do you feel the need to take personal shots ? You could just disprove me on my points, or at least debate them with me -- I'm not saying that I have all the answers, and I could definitely be wrong, but I speak with confidence when I've reviewed these topics for myself in certain depth.

I told inkanddagger he would be wrong because its been both experimentally and mathematically proven that time is infact not just one continuous stream, to continue the analogy as best as possible, time branches off into different streams that run at different rates. The equation he posted as a counter arguement to what I said wasn't explained at all -- but from the looks of it, it doesn't talk about time being continuous. Rather it seems like a proof that shows that time is influenced by gravity and mass.
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Jun 7 2009 11:32pm
Quote (BovineDesi @ Sun, Jun 7 2009, 08:34pm)
Theres a difference between touting to know the absolute truth and just pointing out that some things have been proven wrong or have alternate theories.

Honestly, do you feel the need to take personal shots ? You could just disprove me on my points, or at least debate them with me -- I'm not saying that I have all the answers, and I could definitely be wrong, but I speak with confidence when I've reviewed these topics for myself in certain depth.

I told inkanddagger he would be wrong because its been both experimentally and mathematically proven that time is infact not just one continuous stream, to continue the analogy as best as possible, time branches off into different streams that run at different rates. The equation he posted as a counter arguement to what I said wasn't explained at all -- but from the looks of it, it doesn't talk about time being continuous. Rather it seems like a proof that shows that time is influenced by gravity and mass.


I actually called it a singularity, not a continuous.

The entire river is happening at the same time.

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Jun 8 2009 04:39am
Quote (inkanddagger @ Mon, Jun 8 2009, 05:32am)
I actually called it a singularity, not a continuous.

The entire river is happening at the same time.



Quote (inkanddagger @ Wed, Jun 3 2009, 12:01am)
I like to think of time as being like a river. It is all one long continuous thing.



Ah well,

care to explain what you mean in further details though? if its all happening at once, why do we as humans see an apparent order of time -- why do we remember the past and not the future (if it happens all at once, then we should have already lived the future too right?
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Jun 8 2009 07:34am
Quote (TropicalDude @ Mon, May 25 2009, 04:23am)
If one was able to fly faster than the earth's rotational speed, in the same direction, eventually one would go to the future?

And to go back in time, one would fly in the opposite direction?


nope thats just forward in time
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Jun 8 2009 03:00pm
just got back from bookstore and guess what. david toomey author and kip thorne (one of my favorites) co authored a book about time travel. -stephen hawking also contributed.

The New Time Travelers: A Journey to the Frontiers of Physics

http://www.newtimetravelers.com/
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Jun 8 2009 04:12pm
Quote (BovineDesi @ Mon, Jun 8 2009, 06:39am)
Ah well,

care to explain what you mean in further details though? if its all happening at once, why do we as humans see an apparent order of time -- why do we remember the past and not the future (if it happens all at once, then we should have already lived the future too right?


The entire river is happening at the same time. If you want to go to the mouth, you walk to the mouth, if you want to go to the source, you go to the source, it is still the same river at both points and in between and the entire river is happening at the same time, coherently.. Linear time does not exist. It is one thing that is happening all at once, but because we cannot observe the river in its entirety all at once, we have to float down it to observe the whole thing; we observe it linearly for convenience.

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Jun 8 2009 04:33pm
Quote (unghghgh @ Mon, May 25 2009, 03:32am)
wrong


very wrong
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Jun 10 2009 02:20am
speed and time are 2 completely different things. hate to brake it to you..
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Jun 10 2009 11:04pm
Quote (bender89 @ Wed, Jun 10 2009, 01:20am)
speed and time are 2 completely different things. hate to brake it to you..


break*
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Jun 10 2009 11:05pm
Quote (TropicalDude @ Mon, May 25 2009, 02:23am)
If one was able to fly faster than the earth's rotational speed, in the same direction, eventually one would go to the future?

And to go back in time, one would fly in the opposite direction?


Your an idiot, you would just be moving faster than the earth.
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