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Oct 7 2016 05:43pm
Quote (card_sultan @ 6 Oct 2016 04:18)
So you're a bible thumper ...


what a classic card_sultan way to misunderstand a post
if you were not that drowned in your conspiracy theories you would know that i am agnostic

but yes, you are right ... who counts bachelor degrees
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Oct 7 2016 07:13pm
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what a classic card_sultan way to misunderstand a post
if you were not that drowned in your conspiracy theories you would know that i am agnostic

but yes, you are right ... who counts bachelor degrees


i'm glad you're not a bible thumper, if you weren't floating in spaceland fantasies so much - you'd know that I'm not even remotely religious either

but i'm pretty sure you think Geocentricity is a Biblical creation.

Since you never want to venture out of your safe space, i thought maybe you would feel comfortable Debunking this video here that I think puts a giant nail in the coffin of Helio Sun Worshipping

So do you have any logical rational points you wish to discuss or will you just resort to childhood schoolyard insults that try to deflect your inevitable cognitive dissonance?



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Ill pre-empt any logical explanation you will try:

he shows that perspective will not splay out things that are oriented perpendicular to your plane,
The other explanation say that light rays diverge because of the atmosphere and the debate is whether the atmosphere in the Helio Model is
1. )( = Concave
2. () = Convex
but I think it mostly resemble what is called a meniscus or (( <------like that
So from wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lens_(optics)
Convex-concave (meniscus) lenses can be either positive or negative, depending on the relative curvatures of the two surfaces. A negative meniscus lens has a steeper concave surface and is thinner at the centre than at the periphery. Conversely, a positive meniscus lens has a steeper convex surface and is thicker at the centre than at the periphery. An ideal thin lens with "two surfaces of equal curvature" would have zero optical power, meaning thatit would neither converge nor diverge light.

If the sun is really 93 million miles away and light rays arrive on Earth completely parallel, and you dont have perspective or light refraction to explain how light rays are divergent:

Sun worship busted yet again.

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Ill pre-empt any logical explanation you will try: ...


how often have i to tell to place your 'ideas' in a more appropriate thread?

your spamming decent threads reminds me of the westboro baptist church and them protesting normal events
be so kind and retreat into your standard hiding place and stay there
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how often have i to tell to place your 'ideas' in a more appropriate thread?

your spamming decent threads reminds me of the westboro baptist church and them protesting normal events
be so kind and retreat into your standard hiding place and stay there


Well this "event" is meant to further prove the Big Bang ridiculousness, so by your posting copypasta photos of the "event" while totally negating your responsibility to provide any reasonable explanations your just trying to peddle your Heliocentric Baloney.

So if you aren't even willing to defend Heliocentricity, and expect people to accept it without question, and can't even understand why Heliocentricity vs geocentricity is completely related:

Knowledge ≠ Understanding

Excuses ≠ Reasons

You should just stop if you dont expect debate and believe that Science is just total acceptance of quasi logic.
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Oct 9 2016 10:32pm
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You should just stop if you dont expect debate and believe that Science is just total acceptance of quasi logic.


debate requires two sentient beings, unfortunately when it comes to science you don't qualify
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debate requires two sentient beings, unfortunately when it comes to science you don't qualify


understanding requires that you actually understand all and since this is a debating forum i understand why you dont want debate, and just like people with blind faith. ;)
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understanding requires that you actually understand all and since this is a debating forum i understand why you dont want debate, and just like people with blind faith. ;)


sorry to disappoint you but my qualifications on this subject are a little better than that of a microsoft certified engineer
once you can demonstrate that you have a basic understanding of science i am prepared to enhance your education on this matter
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sorry to disappoint you but my qualifications on this subject are a little better than that of a microsoft certified engineer
once you can demonstrate that you have a basic understanding of science i am prepared to enhance your education on this matter


Once you rationally explain how a satellite can go from 84,000 mph to a relative speed of 0 by landing on the comet without massive amounts of fuel and jets to negate the force of forward acceleration, ill stop thinking you have a comic book understanding of ridiculous sci-fi fantasies that masquerade as a reasonable way to distract yourself from seeing the truth of anything.
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Oct 10 2016 04:38pm
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Once you rationally explain how a satellite can go from 84,000 mph to a relative speed of 0 by landing on the comet without massive amounts of fuel and jets to negate the force of forward acceleration, ill stop thinking you have a comic book understanding of ridiculous sci-fi fantasies that masquerade as a reasonable way to distract yourself from seeing the truth of anything.


how would you understand if you need help understanding the very basic idea of relative speed?
-> http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=75117518&f=257

your first goal should be to understand junior high school math before venturing into more difficult realms
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