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Jun 24 2015 03:15pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Jun 24 2015 03:58pm)
There is only one problem. The force required to steal a moon. It is somewhat feasible to move the moon if no major forces of gravity are acting on it. To pull it away from a gravitational body like jupiter however seems fairly impossible. I mean it could be possible but beyond the scope of physics we currently understand, i cant see any existing or even theorized technology accomplishing this.


That force would probably be overcomeable, but however improbable it seems , the likelyhood of success would seem more credible to make a body habitable if it was in the Goldilocks zone. Colonizing a planet where temperature are -270f on a cold day are about uber slim to "omfg you actually believed we could?". Impossible at this point, but in the future - maybe.
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Jun 24 2015 03:37pm
Quote (card_sultan @ Jun 24 2015 03:15pm)
That force would probably be overcomeable, but however improbable it seems , the likelyhood of success would seem more credible to make a body habitable if it was in the Goldilocks zone. Colonizing a planet where temperature are -270f on a cold day are about uber slim to "omfg you actually believed we could?". Impossible at this point, but in the future - maybe.


i have absolutely no math to back it up. but my guess is that the force required to pull a solid moon from jupiters orbit would be enough to destroy the moon. It would rip like wet paper if u attempted to move it.
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Jun 24 2015 05:29pm
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I wonder how much a moon in space would weigh? And after figuring out the amount of force it exhibits orbiting around a planet you would simply need an opposing force. Caculatable? - probably, doable - not in a long time.

But it actually might be more feasable then trying to colonize mars - were talking 100s of years in the future - certainly worth Nasa discussing it as few Scientists have a clear vision as to their goals.


Quote (thesnipa @ Jun 24 2015 04:58pm)
There is only one problem. The force required to steal a moon. It is somewhat feasible to move the moon if no major forces of gravity are acting on it. To pull it away from a gravitational body like jupiter however seems fairly impossible. I mean it could be possible but beyond the scope of physics we currently understand, i cant see any existing or even theorized technology accomplishing this.


yea i thought as much just thought other people alot smarter than me might have an idea about it lol
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Jun 24 2015 05:30pm
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i have absolutely no math to back it up. but my guess is that the force required to pull a solid moon from jupiters orbit would be enough to destroy the moon. It would rip like wet paper if u attempted to move it.


unless there was a way to control gravity B)
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Jun 24 2015 08:37pm
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no doubt, in the future might be able to move a small moon from jupiter somehow into the habitable zone in our solar system, im sure on of them could potentially be habitable


Not to mention it would take 2 years traveling through Space just to get to Jupiter!

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Jun 24 2015 09:36pm
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Not to mention it would take 2 years traveling through Space just to get to Jupiter!


If we are able to achieve that im sure we would of furthered our engine tech aswell
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Jun 25 2015 08:18pm
Quote (kalelvszod @ Jun 24 2015 06:30pm)
unless there was a way to control gravity B)


Well gravity is created by the entire planet, so there's no way to avoid it, unless
you created a field around an object that made it gravity independent.

Oh idk, maybe a magnetic field that could oppose the forces of gravity,
something like that.
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Jun 26 2015 10:03am
Quote (card_sultan @ Jun 25 2015 10:18pm)
Well gravity is created by the entire planet, so there's no way to avoid it, unless
you created a field around an object that made it gravity independent.

Oh idk, maybe a magnetic field that could oppose the forces of gravity,
something like that.


technology/progress is always inspired through imagination, then we strive to make it real just like everything else so far.It is discussions and ideas like this that keep allowing us to move forward and evolve and tbh i kind of had the same idea creating maybe a subspace field around it to take it out of our normal space time, would make it easier to move that way no doubt.

edit: power req be enormous tho

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Jun 26 2015 02:49pm
Quote (kalelvszod @ Jun 26 2015 11:03am)
technology/progress is always inspired through imagination, then we strive to make it real just like everything else so far.It is discussions and ideas like this that keep allowing us to move forward and evolve and tbh i kind of had the same idea creating maybe a subspace field around it to take it out of our normal space time, would make it easier to move that way no doubt.

edit: power req be enormous tho


There must be a way to generate mass amount of energy - without doing it the conventional way of rubbing two sticks together to make fire and a big bang, that we have been doing it for 100k+ years. Probably when we discover that, would we be able to generate the mass amounts of energy needed to create some type of electromagnetic field around objects were they could not be effected by force or gravity. Nuclear energy is massive but it's far too dangerous and has some nasty side effects.
Perhaps this "God particle" that was discovered with the Large Hadron Collider could hold the answers, who knows though.
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Jun 26 2015 07:13pm
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There must be a way to generate mass amount of energy - without doing it the conventional way of rubbing two sticks together to make fire and a big bang, that we have been doing it for 100k+ years. Probably when we discover that, would we be able to generate the mass amounts of energy needed to create some type of electromagnetic field around objects were they could not be effected by force or gravity. Nuclear energy is massive but it's far too dangerous and has some nasty side effects.
Perhaps this "God particle" that was discovered with the Large Hadron Collider could hold the answers, who knows though.


Maybe convert the matter into energy but then we would need to be able to create mass quantities of them

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