some vaccines damage body immune

stfu multi, you're wrong.

Really?

Currently, science has not discovered enough about the human brain to answer such a question with much accuracy.

Exactly, people should be sceptical of anyone making definite claims in medicine, especially relating to medications or injections that have not been around for a long time.

On the whole vaccines maybe safe but that does not mean you can account for an endless amount of variables that can happen in any individual, due to the unique make up of any given person and even at any given time. I already explained in my previous post how a vaccine can cause a varying degree of encephalitis but I see everyone conveniently ignored all that.

Not that I think that vaccines are to blame for autism, it is likely certain genetic factors being triggered by a variety of environmental factors, some with autism have had varying degrees of successful treatment from methylation which points to this, the methylation cycle can get disrupted due to certain circumstances and genetic vulnerability.

There was news very recently about a compound found in some vegetables helping improve autism symptoms,

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/10/15/study-chemical-in-broccoli-shows-promise-as-autism-treatment/

Apparently sulphoraphane inhibits the growth of certain bacteria, which is just more likely evidence of a bacterial link.

This post was edited by Psychonautica on Oct 16 2014 06:21am

Murica at it's finest.
There's absolutely zero scientific evidence to suggest that vaccines are a bad thing.
By and large, vaccines have played a huge role in DOUBLING human life expectancy in less than 100 years.
They've also helped us progress as a society and a people.
Their downside: they very rarely infect people with minor sickness (in comparison to what the vaccination is protecting against)
Their upside: countless diseases completely wiped off of the face of the earth, with more suppressed to the point that you rarely ever hear it's name anymore.
When's the last time you heard of a polio outbreak? Malaria in the western world?
Measles?
How bout an outbreak of west Nile?
Recently, Ebola outbreak anywhere that has access to vaccines?
No, just a couple scattered cases here and there - all of which are people who went to an area prone to infection, and people who knowingly came in direct contact with a person who did so.
Okay, glad that's settled.

In relation to thread, they don't cause autism at all.
It was a private paper published quoting a "top research scientist," who remains uncited, as saying kids with autism received the measles vaccine earlier than those without - in a case study of less than 1000 individuals.
Firstly, sample size is WAY too small to make such a ballsy statement.
Secondly, bullshit paper with no real evidence or citation to back it up; see definition of tabloid.
Thirdly, multiple papers have been published since, along with common sense, indicating that there is no relation - autism is genetic. Vaccines do not alter your genes.

This post was edited by Leeches on Oct 16 2014 07:42am

some woman i met on the street told me they do

so they do

they dont

No one would question the great benefits of vaccines, or that the benefit far outweighs the risk, but your comment of the downsides is completely moronic.

There are many documented cases of serious injury from vaccines, many court cases and payoffs. As usual big pharma companies want to downplay any risks as much as possible to avoid image problems and of course hysteria (understandably). I am not anti vaccine in the least and think people should still get them done (at least most, some are more trivial than others) but to pretend they are perfectly safe is bs, not to mention it defies all logic. Let me know of anything in life that is perfectly safe for everyone, let alone medications, water might be the only thing, and air.

Btw your genetic expression and epigentics are changing everyday, from everything you eat and everything you are exposed to in your environment; the 'just genetics' answer is simplified bs. You can not separate your genes from the environment, where exactly do you think they evolve, adapt and change from.

This post was edited by Psychonautica on Oct 17 2014 06:50am

Nice post



This post was edited by iMMze on Oct 17 2014 03:02pm

I'm not downplaying the downside of them at all, however in comparison to what most of these vaccines are protecting against an how vastly effective they are, there's no reason to fear the risk of contracting something which is, in most cases, lesser than the thing being protected against.
I'm simplifying for those less educated on the matter is all.
As for your gene pool, your given genes don't change. Yes, things are integrated into your gene pool with vaccines and alterations, however your gene pool at birth does not alter throughout your life. If it did, natural selection would have been null and completely impossible as every being would adapt to it's surroundings.