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Jun 17 2012 12:51am
Quote (Subwoofer @ Jun 17 2012 08:47am)
you're totally right you mentioning cigarettes has absolutely nothing to do with smoking right?

idiot.


already been answered above stupid

"honestly whens the last time you heard anyone but a marijuana smoker mention wanting marijuana products?"

im here, surprise son

stay mad/dumb
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Jun 17 2012 12:53am
Quote (HeLiCaL @ Jun 17 2012 01:51am)
already been answered above stupid

"honestly whens the last time you heard anyone but a marijuana smoker mention wanting marijuana products?"

im here, surprise son

stay mad/dumb


you mentioned marijuana raw material not refined products.

learn to comprehend a conversation before commenting.
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Jun 17 2012 01:01am
Quote (Subwoofer @ Jun 17 2012 08:53am)
you mentioned marijuana raw material not refined products.

learn to comprehend a conversation before commenting.


wow thats so surprising! when the topic clearly points to the most widely spread method of marijuana consumption
how does one become so dum?
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Jun 17 2012 11:12am
Quote (Subwoofer @ Jun 16 2012 09:57pm)
there is a minor market but legalization won't change that because its simply not a demanded product.

switching is bad for everyone it will be massive losses in profits and jobs.

competing is not the issue because honestly whens the last time you heard anyone but a marijuana smoker mention wanting marijuana products? its just not a viable market legal or not.


"Why use up the forests which were centuries in the making and the mines which required ages to lay down, if we can get the equivalent of forest and mineral products in the annual growth of the hemp fields" - Henry Ford

Also, Henry Ford used hemp in the body of his Model T and for fuel...Really I don't know where you're coming from. Your dissent appears baseless.

Also, you should research William Randolph Hearst to get a feel for where prohibition comes from.

And really, I'm not certain why it's relevant that cannabis smokers advocate legalization. Whether or not their intentions are economical or recreational, they still raise valid points.

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Jun 17 2012 11:14am
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yes it changes everything because if it wasn't for its recreational usage 90% of the pro-marijuana crowd wouldn't exist.

stop trying to sound smart on this issue because the fact is you will not legalize recreational usage by arguing industrial usage.

you will not legalize it by comparing it to alcohol and cigarettes. these arguments still rely on everyone being responsible which people are not.

the only thing that has a chance of being legalizing is medical usage and industrial usage simply because most people don't want or care if its legalized.

the majority rules so get use to it. you won't change anything by spouting off the same crap every other pro-marijuana person says because its irrelevant why it was illegal in the first place because as it stands its considered a social nuisance either way.


The reason it was illegal was because of bad business... If it wasn't for public information control, 99% of the against marijuana crowd wouldn't exist...

I don't see how it endangers the safety of others in a free society. Marijuana definitely isn't a violent drug. We could lose some economic productivity, but wouldn't employers just fire and rehire if they became a problem?

There will always be a small percentage who abuse their liberties. But this minority will exist regardless of its legal status.

The disciplined people who can control themselves would be the ones rewarded from legalization and vice versa for the ones who can't.
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Jun 17 2012 01:39pm
Quote (Derkaderk @ Jun 17 2012 12:12pm)
"Why use up the forests which were centuries in the making and the mines which required ages to lay down, if we can get the equivalent of forest and mineral products in the annual growth of the hemp fields" - Henry Ford

Also, Henry Ford used hemp in the body of his Model T and for fuel...Really I don't know where you're coming from. Your dissent appears baseless.

Also, you should research William Randolph Hearst to get a feel for where prohibition comes from.

And really, I'm not certain why it's relevant that cannabis smokers advocate legalization. Whether or not their intentions are economical or recreational, they still raise valid points.


because all they do is hurt their own cause. kind of like no matter how logical and right you are if you have 1000 convicted pedophiles holding hands with little boys agreeing you then no one is going to take you seriously. this is just how peoples minds work.

deforestation is clearly a bad thing and yes it was stupid that marijuana didn't get its chance at industrial usage. the thing is however that these arguments aren't going to change he average citizens mind because of the current marijuana culture bias.

now post #2

you do realize how easy it is to learn everything there is to know about marijuana these days right? don't blame public information control when the reality is most people don't care to change.

legalized it would have a new market of stupid people to make irresponsible decisions under the influence. its not that in itself its dangerous but rather the more users out there the more likely chance one of them is going to do something stupid while high.

losing jobs would be from having to change entire factories hardware out which would end up being brand new machines that would require less workers to make the product. i was never referring to people being high on the job.

that minority is all it takes to sway public opinion because they are the ones getting attention while a responsible user won't get a second look. again this is just how people are so get use to it.

blame the popular marijuana culture for why its illegal today and stop trying to argue it with henry fords model t and deforestation because for the average citizen these aren't valid point because all they see is hippie talk and irrelevant stuff from forever ago.

start factoring in the human condition and you'll see why you are wasting your time trying to not only change 1 person...but millions of them.
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Jun 17 2012 05:48pm
Quote (Subwoofer @ Jun 17 2012 01:39pm)
because all they do is hurt their own cause. kind of like no matter how logical and right you are if you have 1000 convicted pedophiles holding hands with little boys agreeing you then no one is going to take you seriously. this is just how peoples minds work.

deforestation is clearly a bad thing and yes it was stupid that marijuana didn't get its chance at industrial usage. the thing is however that these arguments aren't going to change he average citizens mind because of the current marijuana culture bias.

now post #2

you do realize how easy it is to learn everything there is to know about marijuana these days right? don't blame public information control when the reality is most people don't care to change.

legalized it would have a new market of stupid people to make irresponsible decisions under the influence. its not that in itself its dangerous but rather the more users out there the more likely chance one of them is going to do something stupid while high.

losing jobs would be from having to change entire factories hardware out which would end up being brand new machines that would require less workers to make the product. i was never referring to people being high on the job.

that minority is all it takes to sway public opinion because they are the ones getting attention while a responsible user won't get a second look. again this is just how people are so get use to it.

blame the popular marijuana culture for why its illegal today and stop trying to argue it with henry fords model t and deforestation because for the average citizen these aren't valid point because all they see is hippie talk and irrelevant stuff from forever ago.

start factoring in the human condition and you'll see why you are wasting your time trying to not only change 1 person...but millions of them.


So is your argument cannabis has no place in a market or cannabis has a steep hill to climb before it will be accepted? By the way, it's climbing that hill (hence med states)
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Jun 17 2012 07:26pm
Quote (Derkaderk @ Jun 14 2012 11:13am)
it's not safer than cannabis, but it's not so bad if you know what you're doing. there are risks obviously



PURE mdma
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Jun 17 2012 08:08pm
Quote (Derkaderk @ Jun 17 2012 06:48pm)
So is your argument cannabis has no place in a market or cannabis has a steep hill to climb before it will be accepted? By the way, it's climbing that hill (hence med states)


it has a tough fight is what im saying. there are plenty of markets that could use a new material platform but public opinion is a bitch to bypass.
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Jun 17 2012 08:12pm
Quote (Subwoofer @ Jun 17 2012 03:39pm)
you do realize how easy it is to learn everything there is to know about marijuana these days right? don't blame public information control when the reality is most people don't care to change.

legalized it would have a new market of stupid people to make irresponsible decisions under the influence. its not that in itself its dangerous but rather the more users out there the more likely chance one of them is going to do something stupid while high.

losing jobs would be from having to change entire factories hardware out which would end up being brand new machines that would require less workers to make the product. i was never referring to people being high on the job.

that minority is all it takes to sway public opinion because they are the ones getting attention while a responsible user won't get a second look. again this is just how people are so get use to it.

blame the popular marijuana culture for why its illegal today and stop trying to argue it with henry fords model t and deforestation because for the average citizen these aren't valid point because all they see is hippie talk and irrelevant stuff from forever ago.

start factoring in the human condition and you'll see why you are wasting your time trying to not only change 1 person...but millions of them.


I'm afraid to say you are very right ><
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