Quote (Matao @ Aug 9 2011 10:03am)
quantum mechanics basically says that if you start with nothing , you will end up with something ( altho that something will average out to be nothing )
and altho its true that no1 was around to tell us if this was the particular case with our own universe ...... , well , we do know how much energy there is
if you have another hypothesis tho , feel free to share

I have another hypothesis. I believe you are improperly oversimplifying "Zero Energy" to reach a conclusion of "Nothing".
It is not incorrect to state that a positve energy charge and a negative energy charge cancel each other out and so therefore there is Zero Energy, because energy is defined as the ability to do work and this ability to do work is negated. However, since energy transformations in the universe over time are characterized by various kinds of potential energy that has been available since the Big Bang, later being "released" (transformed to more active types of energy such as kinetic or radiant energy), when a triggering mechanism is available, I hypothosize that the "Zero Energy Balance" is really just another form of potential energy that has a triggering mechanism that we don't as of yet understand (hense the trigger of the Big-Bang).
So with the universe starting out with Zero Energy, it was actually Potential energy with zero net force and this would not be Nothing. It was everything, merely waiting for a triggering mechanism to initiate the Big-Bang.
And that's my Hypothesis
