i believe so strongly in maintaining proper PH mainly because i have such an interest in growing plants. they have to have soil ph levels in a certain range or they get nutrient lockout and will die from starvation pretty much.

that the body needs to be in a certain ph range to be healthy is simple logic.

And it looks like your indoctrination is going great.

Well Lims I'll do my best to explain this to you, though you seem very caught up in the other side of this which is unfortunate.

As a matter of fact, scientists ARE all over it. They are fired, threatened, and discredited once they leave that "circle of drugs". These findings have been validated and brought to the attention of such organizations as the FDA, and it is automatically discredited and ignored.

Aging is very much based on the alkaline design of the human body, because the human body is alkaline by design and acidic by function, and this is why age and death is inevitable, because we cannot stop producing acid in our bodies through metabolic function. You admitted you don't know much about alkalinity and It's key role in the body, then why shoot it down? Like I've said before, do the research yourself and not listen to all these random big pharma ads on TV. Doing a quick scan over the internet is not enough to learn it, and yes this can be considered "alternative medicine", but in fact It's really just being healthy and maintaining the proper alkaline balance of the human body. "Let your food be your medicine and your medicine be your food". Nutrition is great, obviously, but it is not enough on its own to maintain health, for example: Dairy products like milk contain high amounts of calcium so they put the idea in your head that you should or have to consume dairy milk to get enough calcium for your daily needs.

What they don't tell you is how dangerous the lactic acid is to the human body that is produced through dairy consumption. Guess which acid is surrounding every tumor found in the body? Lactic acid. Dairy milk has the potential to leech more calcium from your bones then it actually provides, and this can take months or years, it all depends on how well your body is currently functioning. The blood in our bodies must remain at a pH of 7.365, and the body will do anything in its power to maintain this slightly alkaline state which includes leeching calcium from your bones and magnesium from your muscles.

The main contributor is definitely not genetics. Remove the excess acid and genetics is no longer a problem. Could you explain the bolded part to me? I really like the part in blue that I've highlighted, you are close here. ROS, (the little creatures that thrive in an oxygen deprived state right)? These are things like yeast, fungus, mold, candida, pathogens, parasites etc which cannot survive when the body is in an alkaline/oxygen state of balance. You're absolutely right about these little guys causing all sorts of cellular damage.

This is exactly why when you "cut cancer out" it just comes back, because cancer is not a cell, it is a liquid poisoning the cell.

"Tumor repressor gene". This is a good one, like I said earlier, it is no coincidence that lactic acid is the main acid surrounding tumors in the body. Believe it or not, a tumor is actually what's saving your life should you get one. The body creates things like fat cells and tumors because it does not have the proper alkaline reserves it needs to safely eliminate the toxins in the body. This is due to a diet that is highly oxygen deprived and acidifying, which then creates little homes and gives room for things like yeast, fungus, etc to grow and causing even more damage.

Sadly much of what I've said here is just a repeat of my current posts. It does not have to be as technical as you look at it, people have already done this work, all we have to do is follow it. I thought most people would have seen the documentary Crazy, Sexy Cancer already, I guess not.



It really is simple logic, though many people can't see it that way (myself included at 1 point) right off the bat because they are born into this world believing certain ways which begin to stick after a while. Remember when the earth used to be flat? It some how changed over time..... "Ignorance is our enemy" and "My people die from lack of knowledge" really stand out here. We need to educate, not medicate. We need health, not drugs.

This post was edited by DieTryin' on Jun 14 2011 02:50pm

the role of genetics seems obvious to me. have u ever seen those peeople who eat shitty food all day and have amazing bodies. how about that one colts receiver. all he ate was twinkies and was one of the best receivers in the league for years. marvin harrison i think his name was. have u ever met those 90 y.o. guys who can carry more bags of cement than you, then light a cigarrete? genetics is HUGE

This post was edited by Grippster on Jun 14 2011 11:51pm

also. i disgree with alot fo the statements made on what food to eat. many very old cultures realy mainly on animal products to live, with not that many greens. and the elders live a long life.
imo any natural food is okay. some are better than others, but all are okay. imo fruits and grains are the foods that can be lived without. fats and protein are essential.

also imo, if u eat 6 meals a day, witha mild variety in your foods, you will receive ALL the nutrients needed, even for a high level athlete.

This post was edited by Grippster on Jun 15 2011 12:43am

Most peoples bodies are only functioning at around 50-80% at birth due to the fact mom and dad ate unhealthy throughout there lives. If your Pancreas for example is only functioning at like 20-30% at birth and you remain on the SAD, you will become a diabetic before you're a teenager. If all your organs are functioning at 100%, you could probably live to be 100+ on the SAD. Like I already stated, remove the excess acid and genetics will not be a problem.



And which cultures are these? Every culture I've read about rely mainly on green foods, sprouts, fish, and fresh mountain water.

Fruits and grains are the foods you can live without?
I'm not even going to bother.

hey man, he just wants to eat twinkies all day, and fantasize that he is healthy.

Excuse me? I love how an imbecile stoner such as yourself can jump on the internet, read a few articles that haven't been peer-reviewed and are completely unsourced and become an instant expert. Yet someone like me who has spent the best part of the last 3 years of my life studying and formally learning a discipline at a well-established teritary institution is somehow being indoctrinated. Let me make this clear, there is NO other discipline on earth that encourages the questioning of ideas more than science. None. Every detail presented must be backed up with evidence and there is ALWAYS someone else trying to disprove your theory.

Besides, you seem to have little to no knowledge about basic biology so any further comments that you make on the matter shall be ignored.



You seem to think that all scientists are "slaves to big pharma" and this is simply untrue. While the pharmaceutical industry does fund a lot of scientific research there are literally hundreds of thousands of scientists who have nothing to do with pharmaceuticals. The reverse of your "big pharma" conspiracy is actually happening. REAL scientists are all coming to the same conclusion on this alkalife thing - it's bogus. It's only the people who stand to make money from playing on people's ignorance of real science whom support it.

ROS are not what you described, they are "species" in the chemical sense, like H2O2 (hydrogen peroxide) etc. Essentially, chemicals with unparied electrons in their valence shell.

Your statement about fat cells and tumors as a result of "not having alkaline reserves" is wrong on so many levels.

With regards to lactic acid, there are bacteria called Lactobacillus which are in your GI tract. They produce lactic acid and the change (decrease) in pH actually INHIBITS growth of other harmful pathogens. Furthermore, bacteria can thrive in nearly any sort of pH, including of course, the slightly alkaline pH supposedly producded from drinking ionised water.

If genetics is not the major contributor how can you explain people whom live completely unhealthly lifestyles outliving their healthy counterparts? It happens all the time. I'm not going to bother explaining the molecular mechanisms of DNA replication because without sounding patronising, it probably beyond a level of biology/chemistry that would be meaningful to you. However I do encourage you to read up about it. There's plenty of proper, referenced, peer-review, evidence-based infomation out there about the genetic and nutritional factors involved in aging.

But serisouly, I'm not going to bother discussing this any further with you. You don't have the requisite scientific knowledge to talk intelligently about the topic and you've made it pretty clear that you aren't going to accept the evidence from millions of credible scientists over the alternative medicine lobby.

This post was edited by lims101 on Jun 15 2011 08:56am

SAD? take a look at scandinavian cultures as well as cultures like tibetan. these norwegian guys live to be old as fuck and grew up just sucking up fat like no tommorow. im having a hard time rememberring, but when i read the book, 7 years in tibet, it seemed the tibetan diet revolved mainly around butter. also, i was watching a documentary a lilttle while ago about a tribe in siberia. most of the new generation have left the tribe for modern life, but the tribed has survived for hundreds if not thousands of years on only reindeer meat. ONLY. no other foods period.

what do fruits do besides give carbs? yea they have vitamins and stuff but so does evrything else. same with grains.

You are very confused. I used to be just like you in a less technical sense. What you don't understand is that I've implemented these methods into my own life, as well as friends and family and have experienced the exact results as discussed here. In a case such as this, seeing is believing, and in a very short time, but you are obviously too ignorant to experiment anything outside your teachings. As for the bolded part, why would I read up about it? I've already reversed my disease in a very short time by detox, proper alkalinity, and proper nutrition, as oppose to the doctors who prescribed me drugs for about 24 years which did nothing. I have absolutely no need to look up anything you provide because you're going the wrong way. If you want to believe in something else then that is your life.

Good luck to you.



I'm sorry I would have to start from the very beginning and I just don't have the time, nor do I feel like typing out 200 paragraphs to explain the basics to you. You can just read my previous posts in this thread if you'd like.