Here's something interesting that invalidates the view that redshift is purely a distance/speed relation.

http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2004/arch/041001quasar-galaxy.htm

Since the religious seem to be born with the inability to understand the definition of Scientific Theory; I'll once again explain it for you.



You See, 1 and 2 is what is classified as an scientific theory. 6 and 7 is what your talking about, or the everyday use of the word Theory. Before commenting on science, take your head out of your bible and learn something useful. Your ignorance is laughable.

Also included below is a picture, in case you fail to understand the definitions provided.

Apathy and Ignorance

Start-> Get an idea -> End

You do realize the word theory is derived from a greek word that is a reference to speculation and conjecture right?
I smell language fail 101
Your same argument can be used to explain the existence of God so I will wait for you to be the one to back pedal.
For the record, The word fact can refer to verified information about past or present circumstances or events which are presented as objective reality. In science, it means a provable concept.[1]
When you learn the difference between theory and fact let me know.

ps. Bolded you proving my point kid.

This post was edited by corpselooter1 on Jan 17 2011 04:19am

In regards to this creaton. Not once did I say anything about religion so stop trying to change the subject as if I had made the reference before the previous post.
I love how if you don't agree with these idiots they immeditly decide to try and make your argument religious in some way.
You Sir fail so next time I suggest you keep your mouth shut to avoid looking even more retarded.

This post was edited by corpselooter1 on Jan 17 2011 03:55am

Take out the bits about religion, and his post is 100% correct. Just like he said (and I said in post #32), you have no understanding of how science works. With your lack of understanding of science and distrust of scientists, you can't blame a guy for thinking you're painfully religious.

Where did i mention Creation? How did i try and make it religious in any way? Is your reading comprehension that poor?

Lol'd hard at italics. The "its just a theory" "argument" you're trying to push is just stupidity bordering on retardation.

Next time ill try to provide moar pictures.

damn that corps kid is trolling you guys hard.
its getting embarrassing.

Wouldn't be surprised tbh, but the "its just a theory" argument always causes me rage.

You still don't understand which is incredible. You're using "theory" in the layman's sense, as in "you have a theory on where the tv controller might be" and not the scientific sense. Science doesn't just produce theories randomly stick it to anything. Science first produces a testable hypothesis. That hypothesis is then tested against the evidence with no expected results because the results will have to be derived. If the hypothesis is supported by the evidence, and can withstand the brutal scrutiny of the scientific community it will become a theory until an even more well-supported theory steps in and takes over. Just as with Germ Theory, the Theory of Gravity,and Theory of Evolution, etc, the Big Bang is so well supported it is (in layman's terms) essentially regarded as fact.

By suggesting that the big bang was, "Nothing. Which exploded." You've demonstrated that you don't even understand the very basics of the Big Bang.

By saying that the BB is "Just a theory, not a fact" demonstrates that you don't even understand the basic meaning of a scientific theory.

You are in no position to be offering input in this thread what so ever.