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#41
Dec 10 2009 07:37am
Quote (theCrossbones @ 10 Dec 2009 11:23)
you should re-take reading..ASAP


And who is this rand who is trying to protect his buddy?
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Dec 10 2009 11:19am
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Stupid people stick together. He probably didnt realize that you make no goddamn sense.


ah just like you and devilsvex?
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Dec 10 2009 12:56pm
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Dude, you are stupid as fuck man.

We are talking about razing the rain forest and forcing the species who cannot survive anywhere else out of their natural habitat.

We are not talking about couple of squirrels who can survive perfectly by just jumping onto some other tree.




You think only a couple of squirrels used to be the only thing living there? Doubt it.

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#44
Dec 10 2009 02:29pm
Ethical.
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Dec 10 2009 02:49pm
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ah just like you and devilsvex?


this is basically the only thing we have ever agreed on. in fact i bash her harder then almost anyone else on here.
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Dec 10 2009 02:52pm
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this is basically the only thing we have ever agreed on. in fact i bash her harder then almost anyone else on here.


regardless you are sticking together in this thread

now do you eat meat?

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#47
Dec 10 2009 03:17pm
Ethical, in the sense of preserving the vast variation of nature, and particularly preservation of the species.

Unethical towards individual members of the species.


Utilitarianistically, ethical.

*Dont remember what was anti-utilitarianism called*, unethical.

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Dec 10 2009 03:37pm
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Ethical, in the sense of preserving the vast variation of nature, and particularly preservation of the species.

Unethical towards individual members of the species.


Utilitarianistically, ethical.

*Dont remember what was anti-utilitarianism called*, unethical.


i agree for the most part.

personally i feel that its ethical too for preserving species *lonesome george*. also i can understand the use of zoos for scientific research.

however, i do believe zoos only looking solely for financial gains are unethical.

if the zoo serves a purpose in society i see it as no less ethical livestock farms

Quote (ChantDownBabylon @ Dec 10 2009 02:46am)


And there is still the ethical side of zoos. Man does not own other species. We cannot do whatever we want with them saying that they are 'better off' that way. It is an utopian ideal that man could exist peacefully side by side with other species, not trying to rule them. And remember i have never said that we should close zoos. Imprisoned and injured animals cannot survive in the wild. But i also think that it is unethical to breed species. 99,9% species ever lived are now extinct. This is just part of life and we should not play nature.


utopian ideal... how the fuck would we, as omnivores, eat if we are supposed to live peacefully with our prey?


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Dec 10 2009 03:39pm
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i agree for the most part.

personally i feel that its ethical too for preserving species *lonesome george*.  also i can understand the use of zoos for scientific research.

however, i do believe zoos only looking solely for financial gains are unethical.

if the zoo serves a purpose in society i see it as no less ethical livestock farms or pets.


Makes sense.
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#50
Dec 10 2009 03:47pm
zoo is unethical, but so is raising pigs/chickens in crowded pens until the day the are slaughtered for us to eat.
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utopian ideal... how the fuck would we, as omnivores, eat if we are supposed to live peacefully with our prey?

free range ftw. also humans do not need meat for sustenance.

also note zoos spark interest in young kids that can last a lifetime.

This post was edited by juliusjuice on Dec 10 2009 03:50pm
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