i hope to be a significant developer in our knowledge of said cosmological events.

This post was edited by dothe on May 20 2009 08:01pm

Don't we all..

what does that have to do with a fossil finding?

it's a really cool find, but there is a continuum of beliefs. many of which can incorporate evolution into religion.
religion does not need to be vs science.

Your own statistics above showed that 45% of theists believed in theistic evolution, how does that in any way prove the two can't be mixed?

From the Catholic Catechism:

283. The question about the origins of the world and of man has been the object of many scientific studies which have splendidly enriched our knowledge of the age and dimensions of the cosmos, the development of life-forms and the appearance of man. These discoveries invite us to even greater admiration for the greatness of the Creator, prompting us to give him thanks for all his works and for the understanding and wisdom he gives to scholars and researchers.

It proves that a statistically significant portion of Americans have an inconsistent view of the origins of man, namely their ideas stem from irrational and unverified claims about creation.

The fact is, you cannot mix science with religion for the last god damn time. Do you understand this?

If science is correct, that means religion is false, that is the most fundamental contention between science and religion. Remember?

Except you're completely wrong and that's not the case, because religion and science are perfectly compatible no matter how many times you assert the opposite.

Anyone who says that science and religion are incompatible don't know understand the fundamental principles behind them. The people who think there is contention are simply ignorant.

Prove it.

Until then, your argument is invalid. The fact is you can't use science to prove religion, in any case. I would like for you to demonstrate that Science can exist with religion, do it. For the sake of your apparent consistency with the fact that you can't differentiate between science and religion.



Would you like to commit the most basic logical fallacy? Oh wait you did, its called Ad hominem.

Prove it.

This post was edited by Jazz_Thing on May 21 2009 05:32pm

I already proved it. I quoted from official doctrine of one of the oldest religion in the West which is not only compatible with Evolution, but which welcomes scientific discoveries as helping us to understand God's creation better.

That said, your argument has been nothing but assertions, while I have been able to show science and religion co-existing in perfect peace. This is not a fight between two philosophies. These are two completely different ideas - one is a belief system, one is a collection of knowledge extracted with a specific, well-functioning methodology, and there is no contradiction between the two existing quite comfortably.

I differentiate between the two just fine, and I certainly never said that science will one day prove religion. I fear that once again, your communication abilities may be getting in the way of what you actually mean to say.