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Aug 14 2009 08:15am
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Um, I think the big bang occurred first. Planets and stars formed. Primordial soup and shit. Prokaryotes. Eukaryotes. Multi-cellular organisms. Oceans to land transition. Mammals. Humans.
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Aug 14 2009 02:53pm
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Aug 14 2009 03:23pm
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Aug 14 2009 07:35pm
Quote (dothe @ Thu, May 14 2009, 11:56pm)
bovine is right it has been proven there is a finite amount of mass/energy in the universe. stabilized ofc by its conceptual counterpart dark matter. a bit of logical deduction should lead you to this conclusion even without researching it. infinite is INFINITE and like bovine said, this implies that everything everywhere would be consumed by matter or energy. how would u explain the void of space where the particle count per cubic meter is in the 100's?

however i dont agree with bovine on the idea that the universe always existed. there's plenty of researched evidence that shows the universe is expanding. this implies only one conclusion; that it must have a physical provenience. perhaps i misinterpreted your theory and you believe the universe existed as a singularity for an eternity before the big bang...but i dont think thats what u meant. i suppose thats more rational, but still it presents a huge logical fallacy. because how would it exist unchanging for an eternity and then suddenly ignite into the vastness it is now? and if there is no origin to the universe, there is no origin to time, and so how could time have a direction? better yet how could time exist at all? if something has absolutely no effect on anything that defines the physical universe, then it must be a fictitious invention. but we all know time exists dont we?


The only thing I disagree with here is your quote "...the universe existed as a singularity for an eternity before the Big Bang".

Before the Big Bang, there was no time. Time is measured as an interval between 2 events (any type of events). There were no events before the Big Bang; therefore, there was no time.
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Aug 15 2009 03:21pm
Which came first, the chicken or the egg?
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Aug 15 2009 04:10pm
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Also due to the fact the 3D universe is mathematically infinite in all directions, therefore there is an infinite amount of matter/mass/energy.


Ok so then what made the 3D universe exist?
That is the point he is trying to make.

All of you are absolutely retarded.

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existence*

Um, I think the big bang occurred first. Planets and stars formed. Primordial soup and shit. Prokaryotes. Eukaryotes. Multi-cellular organisms. Oceans to land transition. Mammals. Humans.


What made the big bang exist?
Things don't just blow up out of no where. Something had to cause it, thus something had to exist.

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Aug 16 2009 02:35am
Quote (H911ADA @ Mon, Jul 6 2009, 11:22pm)
Big Bang Theory = Bible's Creation story


God said it and Bang! it was there?
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Aug 16 2009 09:42am
it just is
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Aug 16 2009 10:21am
It makes sence that existence is real. Think about this: how can there be inexistence without existence? The two concepts define eachother. It is impossible for there to be simply nothing, because really, "nothing" is only the lack of something. There cannot be one without the other.
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It makes sence that existence is real. Think about this: how can there be inexistence without existence? The two concepts define eachother. It is impossible for there to be simply nothing, because really, "nothing" is only the lack of something. There cannot be one without the other.


Thank you for this unrelated post.
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