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Jul 20 2016 03:11am
Quote (card_sultan @ Jul 19 2016 04:28pm)
it's theorized that it's burning gas

The sun does not burn hydrogen, that requires oxygen. Fusion is not burning.

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but what makes you think it's actually fusion

Well for starters that the neutrino collection from the sun matches the prediction that it is fusion. Also from your calculations (which seem right, for once) which shows that fusion gives the sun a long enough life expectancy to match observation (that it has existed for a long time), which the burning of hydrogen would not.
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Jul 20 2016 03:14am
Quote (card_sultan @ Jul 19 2016 11:28pm)
Oh no they call it fusion - but what makes you think it's actually fusion - it's theorized that it's burning gas compressed by a massive amount of gravity but gravity is just a theory and assumption as well as this fact:
The Sun consumes about 600 million tons of hydrogen per second. (That's 6 x 108 tons.) For comparison, the mass of the Earth is about 1.35 x 1021 tons. This would mean the Sun consumes the mass of the Earth in about 70,000 years.

What if the sun is not fusion or the sun is not burning hydrogen? How would you know? Isn't the only reason you think that is because you read it in a book? Is there some ultimate truth in words when are printed in a book?


Spectral analysis of the light and the other particles emitted by the sun is enough to tell us what's happening. It's basic physics, something you will probably never understand.

Also proof that people have been on the moon:


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Jul 20 2016 04:11pm
^nice, but what are they on about at the end? not just the small amount of general relativity that needs to be taken into account right


btw if the moon was close wouldn't it change size watching it move across a flat plane from a single point? (plus is would never disappear just keep getting smaller)
and what keeps it in the air if not orbit? (i know gravity isn't real but something very much like gravity seems to occur right?)
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btw if the moon was close wouldn't it change size watching it move across a flat plane from a single point?
You know what is worse? There are stars that can't been seen in the northern latitudes but can be seen in the southern latitudes (and vice-versa). Take for example the Southern Cross. You can see it year round in South America, but near the equator you can only see it about 50% of the time, near the 25th parallel north (runs through Mexico) you can only see it a few days a year, north of the 25th parallel you can't see it at all. For some observers (northern) observers, the Earth is in the way, blocking you from seeing it. For other observers (equatorial and southern) there is no problem. Try explaining that with a flat Earth.
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You know what is worse? There are stars that can't been seen in the northern latitudes but can be seen in the southern latitudes (and vice-versa). Take for example the Southern Cross. You can see it year round in South America, but near the equator you can only see it about 50% of the time, near the 25th parallel north (runs through Mexico) you can only see it a few days a year, north of the 25th parallel you can't see it at all. For some observers (northern) observers, the Earth is in the way, blocking you from seeing it. For other observers (equatorial and southern) there is no problem. Try explaining that with a flat Earth.


They are on the tail's side of the coin man

A flat earth would have 2 sides

obviously that must be the case, with all the evidence sultan has provided
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Jul 20 2016 06:43pm
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Gravity is not a theory.....Do you not understand what scientist mean when they use the word theory?


Do you? Could you explain how a theory is not a theory, this is why you are confused - because you think of it as fact, but that's just in your own mind.

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The sun does not burn hydrogen, that requires oxygen. Fusion is not burning.



Well lets look at the definition of a fusion bomb:

A pure fusion weapon is a hypothetical hydrogen bomb design that does not need a fission "primary" explosive to ignite the fusion of deuterium and tritium, two heavy isotopes of hydrogen

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k proved wrong for the 15th time, please take your Degree and go back to the bar you came from

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They are on the tail's side of the coin man

A flat earth would have 2 sides

obviously that must be the case, with all the evidence sultan has provided


I never said there was another side to flat earth, but i have heard of that theory before
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You know what is worse? There are stars that can't been seen in the northern latitudes but can be seen in the southern latitudes (and vice-versa). Take for example the Southern Cross. You can see it year round in South America, but near the equator you can only see it about 50% of the time, near the 25th parallel north (runs through Mexico) you can only see it a few days a year, north of the 25th parallel you can't see it at all. For some observers (northern) observers, the Earth is in the way, blocking you from seeing it. For other observers (equatorial and southern) there is no problem. Try explaining that with a flat Earth.


Man the amount of irrefutable evidence we've been able to come up with just thinking about this stuff for a few weeks on a forum is ridiculous
And scientist have been doing it for a millennia but we can't assume that maybe they got some of it right?

Also i didn't think there was a flip side, stuff becomes even more ridiculous then, but hey lets just pretend that its real because some of the maths probably still works and we can ignore the rest again. Then we can go out and live in a even more elitist conspiracist alternative reality
(and call anyone who disagrees a sheep too stuck in their conventional thinking)
hey how about the earth is a cube? probably has more astro stuff working than the flat version
lets just call the plant whatever we like and all live in lala land
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Jul 21 2016 01:58am
By the way what is on the flip side and how could we get there, how thick is the earth if not infinity
What's it resting on? A turtle?

You have no working model and no credibility sorry

/Alex out

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By the way what is on the flip side and how could we get there, how thick is the earth if not infinity
What's it resting on? A turtle?

You have no working model and no credibility sorry

/Alex out


a working model - is that what life is to you?

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By the way what is on the flip side and how could we get there, how thick is the earth if not infinityt
Well here is what could work to explain the "Southern Cross":

Its like a coin, and there is a flip side (as suggested above), but since we would clearly notice the edge, perhaps the edge is kind of thick and rounded, you know like a slow gradual rounding across the face of the coin and wrapping around to the other side. Oh wait, I just described a sphere!

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