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Sep 6 2018 12:50pm
The ozone hole didn't "let UV rays into the Earth for them to get trapped". It increased the number of UV rays that could pass through the upper atmosphere without being absorbed by ozone molecules. The concern with the ozone hole was not one of global warming and greenhouse, but one of skin cancer.

The result of the greenhouse effect is a decrease in the amount of heat that is allowed to leave the Earth. Heat is radiated primarily in the form of infrared radiation, and the greenhouse effect is increased by an increase in atmospheric compounds that absorb infrared radiation, such as CO2, water vapor, and organic compounds like methane.

Calendar slippage has been largely solved with our modern calendars. Our current calendar, with leap years, skipped leap years, etc. will only "slip" about a day every hundred years, which we account for by skipping leap years every century or so. We actually just had one a few years ago if you want to look into it.

I actually had the opportunity to take classes in my graduate chemistry program from a professor who worked with a Berkeley lab on correcting temperature data for satellite drift. He's an expert in global warming and the relevant atmospheric phenomena if there ever was one.

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The ozone hole didn't "let UV rays into the Earth for them to get trapped". It increased the number of UV rays that could pass through the upper atmosphere without being absorbed by ozone molecules. The concern with the ozone hole was not one of global warming and greenhouse, but one of skin cancer.

The result of the greenhouse effect is a decrease in the amount of heat that is allowed to leave the Earth. Heat is radiated primarily in the form of infrared radiation, and the greenhouse effect is increased by an increase in atmospheric compounds that absorb infrared radiation, such as CO2, water vapor, and organic compounds like methane.

Calendar slippage has been largely solved with our modern calendars. Our current calendar, with leap years, skipped leap years, etc. will only "slip" about a day every hundred years, which we account for by skipping leap years every century or so. We actually just had one a few years ago if you want to look into it.

I actually had the opportunity to take classes in my graduate chemistry program from a professor who worked with a Berkeley lab on correcting temperature data for satellite drift. He's an expert in global warming and the relevant atmospheric phenomena if there ever was one.


You have no idea how the green house effect works.

I laid it out for you and you still don't get it.

MR. IKnowSomeoneWhoKnowsSomeoneWhoKnowsSomeoneWhoWorkedOnCorrectingTempturatureDataForSataliteDrift. :rofl:

In conclusion;



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Quote (Thor123422 @ Sep 6 2018 07:50pm)
The ozone hole didn't "let UV rays into the Earth for them to get trapped". It increased the number of UV rays that could pass through the upper atmosphere without being absorbed by ozone molecules. The concern with the ozone hole was not one of global warming and greenhouse, but one of skin cancer.

The result of the greenhouse effect is a decrease in the amount of heat that is allowed to leave the Earth. Heat is radiated primarily in the form of infrared radiation, and the greenhouse effect is increased by an increase in atmospheric compounds that absorb infrared radiation, such as CO2, water vapor, and organic compounds like methane.

Calendar slippage has been largely solved with our modern calendars. Our current calendar, with leap years, skipped leap years, etc. will only "slip" about a day every hundred years, which we account for by skipping leap years every century or so. We actually just had one a few years ago if you want to look into it.

I actually had the opportunity to take classes in my graduate chemistry program from a professor who worked with a Berkeley lab on correcting temperature data for satellite drift. He's an expert in global warming and the relevant atmospheric phenomena if there ever was one.


I admire you tenacity trying to get him somewhere related to actual science. I gave up personally

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You have no idea how the green house effect works.

I laid it out for you and you still don't get it.

MR. IKnowSomeoneWhoKnowsSomeoneWhoKnowsSomeoneWhoWorkedOnCorrectingTempturatureDataForSataliteDrift. :rofl:

In conclusion;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjSk9krYg5U


You have no idea that you have no idea what you're talking about. Sttick to computers and heal asap that drunning-krueger syndrom :rofl:

Inbe4 another youtube videos about slippage shit haha



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Quote (Ep0ch @ Sep 6 2018 12:56pm)
You have no idea how the green house effect works.

I laid it out for you and you still don't get it.

MR. IKnowSomeoneWhoKnowsSomeoneWhoKnowsSomeoneWhoWorkedOnCorrectingTempturatureDataForSataliteDrift. :rofl:

In conclusion;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjSk9krYg5U


It's pretty basic physics and chemistry, and you can find it in any introductory chemistry book.

Hot stuff releases radiation, other stuff absorbs the radiation and is heated. If you increase the amount of "other stuff" in the atmosphere then the radiation leaves more slowly. (The tendency of something to release or reflect heat is called albedo).

In this case the "hot stuff" is Earth, the radiation is infrared radiation, and the "other hot stuff" absorbing is infrared absorbing molecules in the atmosphere.

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How sad for you both. :(
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How sad for you both. :(


>The graduate trained chemist quoting from an introductory textbook on the subject is wrong. My alternate theory that none of the experts can possibly understand is the true way!

One of us sounds like Card, and it's pretty clearly not me.

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Oh look, the picture you used specifically says the greenhouse effect deals with infrared radiation.



"Some of the infrared radiation is absorbed and reemitted by the greenhouse molecules"

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Oh look, the picture you used specifically says the greenhouse effect deals with infrared radiation.

http://cdn.differencebetween.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/green-house-effect.jpg

"Some of the infrared radiation is absorbed and reemitted by the greenhouse molecules"



You guys are stuck in the 80/90s. Grow a little.

Things are better than they have been since the climate change problem was first identified, and will only keep getting better.

If anything we are making the atmosphere too oxygenated too quickly, and eventually it becomes so oxygenated that it catches fire and the world turns into a giant marshmallow.



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You guys are stuck in the 80/90s. Grow a little.

Things are better than they have been since the climate change problem was first identified, and will only keep getting better.

If anything we are making the atmosphere too oxygenated too quickly, and eventually it becomes so oxygenated that it catches fire and the world turns into a giant marshmallow.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7E1v24Dllk


trololololol
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Sep 6 2018 02:59pm
Sure we aren't burning nature faster than ever... 17 of the 18 most hot years have been recorded during 21th century but that is all natural ofc. Everything that shows the contrary is pseudo-science.
Forest dont burn faster in cali or asutralia. artic bears are healthier than ever. etc etc.

drunning-krueger /10

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