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Sep 14 2016 03:52pm
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You invent an airplane and start traveling to the west, but wait - there's a 1000mph air you need to travel against? I already know your going to say " but airplanes work fine, they dont need to fly against 1000 mph air"

no because you built the plane on earth so you're already travelling 1000mps east with the air
if you flew down from your god position then sure you could hit 1000 mile an hour winds


if the plane was moving west from the god position then you would be moving more than 1000 miles per hours with equally strong winds
but it's actually still moving east even if the plane is flying west on the earth so not much wind

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You invent an airplane and start traveling to the west, but wait - there's a 1000mph air you need to travel against? I already know your going to say " but airplanes work fine, they dont need to fly against 1000 mph air"

no because you built the plane on earth so you're already travelling 1000mps east with the air
if you flew down from your god position then sure you could hit 1000 mile an hour winds


So you acknowledge the issue that air is moving at 1000 mph relative to the spin of the Earth and that a man made plane traveling to the west should need to counteract it, and that since it does not -
the only reasonable conclusion is that gravity, the spin, and ball earth are a lie, glad we got that straightened out.

If you still have any lingering doubts about the Falsehoods of Gravity - perhaps you can try to explain why all lakes freeze completely flat when on Ball earth they should all have this huge curve in their surface and when frozen they should have a huge hump in them.

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Sep 14 2016 04:09pm
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So you acknowledge the issue that air is moving at 1000 mph relative to the spin of the Earth and that a man made plane traveling to the west should need to counteract it, and that since it does not -
the only reasonable conclusion is that gravity, the spin, and ball earth are a lie, glad we got that straightened out.

If you still have any lingering doubts about the Falsehoods of Gravity - perhaps you can try to explain why all lakes freeze completely flat when on Ball earth they should all have this huge curve in their surface and when frozen they should have a huge hump in them.

no the air moves at zero miles per hour relative to the earth
the plane can't travel west through space without going more than 1000 miles per hour, it can travel west on the earth with any speed

with lakes the curvature is just way too small to notice

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no the air moves at zero miles per hour relative to the earth
the plane can't travel west through space without going more than 1000 miles per hour, it can travel west on the earth with any speed

with lakes the curvature is just way too small to notice


If the air moves at 0 mph , but the earth is spinning at 1000 mph how can a balloon travel up in the air for three hours and have someone jump out of that balloon and land only 30 miles away - are you saying that gravity attracts that balloon to the spin of the earth , but it doesn't attract the air to the spin? Last time i checked - Air has mass -So I guess it's only relative depending on what quasi logic reality your blabbing about understanding.

Also according to Pythagorean math a lake of 100 miles in distance - would experience a 1.3 mile drop in the curve - how can you possible think that kinda hump in a frozen Lake would be "unnoticeable". You can skate across these frozen lakes they are so flat - do you think it would be possible to skate uphill?

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If the air moves at 0 mph , but the earth is spinning at 1000 mph how can a balloon travel up in the air for three hours and have someone jump out of that balloon and land only 30 miles away - are you saying that gravity attracts that balloon to the spin of the earth , but it doesn't attract the air to the spin? Last time i checked - Air has mass -So I guess it's only relative depending on what quasi logic reality your blabbing about understanding.

Also according to Pythagorean math a lake of 100 miles in distance - would experience a 1.3 mile drop in the curve - how can you possible think that kinda hump in a frozen Lake would be "unnoticeable". You can skate across these frozen lakes they are so flat - do you think it would be possible to skate uphill?

isn't it 8 inches per miles
so over 100 miles it's like like 20 meters not 2000, and that's curve down, would be half of that for an apex
hm the maths doesn't work like that, knew i couldn't be bothered to work it out


the air is also moving at 1000 miles per hours but zero relative to the earth, thought we covered this

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Yeah it is like 1.3 miles my bad, 0.63 height, i guess a 100 miles lake is far too big. Only need 3 miles to go all the way to horizon which is 0.0013 curvature (1.8 meters) 90cm high. That's the most curvature you can experience
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Yeah it is like 1.3 miles my bad, 0.63 height, i guess a 100 miles lake is far too big. Only need 3 miles to go all the way to horizon which is 0.0013 curvature (1.8 meters) 90cm high. That's the most curvature you can experience


I guess that is true if you lying down, but as long as you realize that according to Pythagorean Ball math - even if you only see 3 miles - the curve /drop should still happen no matter what % of the horizon you see or not.
Does a tree falling in a forest, still make a sound even if there is no one there to hear it? Of course it does. This hump should only be small if the frozen lake is small though, they say the drop/curve in 8 inches per mile squared, so if a 1 miles lake it should be 8 inch or .67 feet, if the lake in 2 miles across - 2 (miles) squared = 4 x 8 inch = 32 inches , if the lake is 3 miles across the drop should be 3 (miles) squared = 9 x 8 inches = 72 inches (that's 6 feet already) Can you imagine seeing that high of a hump in a 3 miles lake in the winter? This isn't my math btw - it is pythagorean math for a ball with a radius of 4000 miles. Once you really start to think about it, you see how ridiculous the ball earth really is.
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Sep 15 2016 12:22pm
3 miles is loads, all the way to horizon with nothing obscuring vision, you wouldn't notice 3 feet at all. 6 feet is the drop, needs to go up and down for a bump

that's like a 1:4800 ratio, you wouldn't notice a 0.2mm inflection over a meter would you
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3 miles is loads, all the way to horizon with nothing obscuring vision, you wouldn't notice 3 feet at all. 6 feet is the drop, needs to go up and down for a bump

that's like a 1:4800 ratio, you wouldn't notice a 0.2mm inflection over a meter would you


Seems like your confusing a particular limited view with the Pythagorean math for the curve on a ball. Your particular limited view does not negate that the curve should always be there.

For example - if you can only see 3 miles into the horizon you should not be able to notice the curve, If your up in an airplane at 40, 000 feet - you should be able to see the curve.

There is plenty of video evidence that shows the cockpit view of an airplane with 180degree panorama that shows no curve. There is also video of people doing 5 mile laser tests where curve should be measurable and where you dont rely on guessing and misconceptions - you can measure it to the inch and at 5 miles away from any point there should be 200 inches of drop - that's 16 1/2 feet of drop, it's clearly not their.

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Sep 15 2016 02:47pm
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